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Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters lyringlas Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 02:32:48 PM
As for Arya, the girl is deliberately and willingly seeking employment as a professional assassin! No matter what mendacious tale of mercy or justice the Faceless Men use to dilute the unsavory truth of their occupation, they commit murder for money. Arya knows this, she was raised to hold proper values, and she still pursues a career with the Faceless Men in spite of that. You can make all sorts of arguments about how her losses and harsh experience is driving her to that, but the reasons why a person's character are formed in a certain way have nothing to do with whethr or not they are good or evil. They are good or evil based on their actions and intentions, not on what experience causes them to see evil deeds as an acceptable means. And, too, she murdered Daeron or Dareon or whoever the singer from the Night's Watch was. She was not in the Seven Kingdoms, so their laws do not apply. She is not a bannerman or titled noble with a responsibility or right to uphold the laws of the Seven Kingdoms, no matter what she claims in her assertion that Arya Stark did the deed. Plain and simple, she committed cold-blooded murder, for no genuine reason. He was no threat to anyone, least of all Arya herself, and there is simply no excuse for killing him. This proves that Arya is not simply in denial about the reality or actions of the Faceless Men - she is perfectly willing to commit murder and take lives for which she has no good cause.



On the contrary, I think her murdering the Nightwatchman shows that her values haven't changed as far as we've originally thought. Sure, she murders people, and more importantly, she has murdered a couple of people that harmed her personally, even though she had the option of killing much more politically viable targets. However, she is a 9 or 10 year old girl, given over to fits of frivolity, though much less than most 9 or 10 year old children. But the Nightwatchman was a defender of the North, and he violated his oath. She, as the representative of the Starks of the Kingdom in the North, felt it was her duty to administer justice. Arya is a law unto herself. I am glad that she is holding on to some of her ideals.
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ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters - 18/03/2010 02:04:24 PM 1376 Views
Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters - 18/03/2010 02:32:48 PM 829 Views
Re: ASoI&F Quickpoll: Evil characters - 18/03/2010 06:34:29 PM 775 Views
Exactly. - 18/03/2010 09:07:56 PM 834 Views
I have never heard anyone defend Cersei. - 18/03/2010 07:04:33 PM 836 Views
Confusing likability with goodness - 18/03/2010 08:59:40 PM 830 Views
Arya may not be "good"... - 18/03/2010 09:15:46 PM 882 Views
Do you think a child can be evil? *NM* - 18/03/2010 09:18:06 PM 352 Views
We sometimes hear about kids doing horrible things - 18/03/2010 09:41:30 PM 712 Views
Is that because they may not understand the consequences of their actions? - 18/03/2010 09:45:33 PM 787 Views
Most likely, yes. Plus their reasons for doing bad things lack deeper inferior motives. - 18/03/2010 10:09:25 PM 818 Views
Arya is old enough to understand cause and effect... - 18/03/2010 11:04:31 PM 915 Views
Soldiers do the same thing. - 19/03/2010 03:23:35 AM 748 Views
Just what I was about to say, yeah *NM* - 19/03/2010 07:55:47 AM 322 Views
Arya is legitimately the most evil... - 18/03/2010 09:45:04 PM 1097 Views
No, she's not - 18/03/2010 11:45:23 PM 770 Views
Cersei doesn't have true justification - 18/03/2010 11:47:44 PM 890 Views
what makes ambition better? - 19/03/2010 03:30:04 AM 739 Views
*nods* - 19/03/2010 07:58:31 AM 861 Views
Re: Arya is legitimately the most evil... - 19/03/2010 10:50:56 PM 755 Views
I was looking forward to his response as well. - 19/03/2010 11:13:35 PM 864 Views
Nope - 20/03/2010 10:23:19 PM 924 Views
Evil is such a limiting term to use. - 20/03/2010 12:18:24 PM 729 Views
Try reading the books - 20/03/2010 10:50:01 PM 940 Views
just out of curiousity - 21/03/2010 03:01:02 AM 824 Views
Sort of. - 22/03/2010 11:37:04 PM 733 Views
I've read them a few times. - 21/03/2010 01:47:52 PM 824 Views
Just a "few" times? - 21/03/2010 06:07:14 PM 876 Views
Only three times. - 21/03/2010 11:20:12 PM 781 Views
Who is Jon Connington? - 22/03/2010 01:30:44 AM 918 Views
people seem to be forgetting - 21/03/2010 09:11:04 PM 887 Views
Some of that is BS... - 22/03/2010 04:18:06 AM 808 Views
Thank you. - 23/03/2010 01:59:38 AM 814 Views
*NM* - 23/03/2010 03:58:24 AM 274 Views
ROFLMAO. Most people complain that my values are medieval & out of touch with the modern world! - 23/03/2010 01:54:58 AM 1152 Views
It really shocks that I'm going to say this. - 23/03/2010 03:23:28 AM 740 Views
To clarify, "evil" means VERY, VERY BAD. - 23/03/2010 01:12:39 AM 985 Views
your problem is you seem equate legality with morality - 24/03/2010 04:07:42 AM 729 Views
I was responding to someone ELSE making that error - 24/03/2010 03:13:36 PM 1010 Views

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