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Your face is an unreliable horse! snoopcester Send a noteboard - 12/03/2010 10:25:32 AM
Or reading?


One would suppose it would be reading the same way non-horses do.

But I digress. Which leads me back to my original point!

I've just started reading Gene Wolfe's Soldier in the Mist. The narrator, a Latin mercenary in the army of the late Cyrus the Younger, has short term memory loss. Think Memento meets the Anabasis, except that Memento came later and the Anabasis is arguably more obscure.

ANYWAY. The point is that, as in Memento, people who can't remember anything typically don't make for particularly reliable narrators. Even when they write/tattoo/condition everything as best they can. Now, Gene Wolfe seems to enjoy playing with the concept of reliability in narration; the narrator of his Book of the New Sun claims to have an eidetic memory, but several things within the book go against this claim.

It strikes me that the majority of genre fiction I've read does not deal a lot with this concept. Sci-fi and fantasy in particular. There seems to be a pretty strong belief that whatever is written is a true account, which is really rather odd considering how fairly cynical we humans can be as readers. I think it's safe to say that, on the whole, realistic fiction is more open about the possibility of the narrator misconstruing something. I don't mean in the sense of "Oh, we thought Xandar the Dark was on our side, but actually he was betraying us!", but rather in the sense of a narrator misremembering a scene or looking at an event and misinterpreting what's going on. Which leads me to my general questions.

1. Do you go into a novel with the assumption that the narrator will be reliable? Why?


Generally, yes. Because 19 times out of 20 the narrator is. If not it is usually made clear early or the writer is trying to use it as a device so it is a shame to ruin the effect.

2. Do you actively assess a narrator's reliability? Do you do it often? Are there triggers that make you stop and judge the narrator's reliability?


I don't think I do it actively on a first read - it would be triggered by the author giving hints.

3. Do you prefer books with unreliable narrators? Why?


I don't mind as long as the book is well written.
I don't prefer, as it would be boring if all books used the device but once in a while it makes an interesting difference.

Feel free to hijack this into a discussion on reliability vs. unreliability, a critique on the concept of "realistic" vs "fantastic" fiction with regards to narrators' reliability (I'm looking at you, Larry), implicit misogyny in the assumption of certain narrative archetypes, etc.


An Instance of the Fingerpost by Iain Pearce was an excellent example of this - the same story from four different view points. Though the ending was a bit too tidy for my liking.

(Or how horses can type with hooves, because I am pretty seriously sure that they can't. Unless they have, like, MEGA big keyboards.)


They'd use their tongues, of course.
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Unreliable narrators: yay or nay? Or neigh? And if so, and you are a horse, how are you typing? - 12/03/2010 05:20:09 AM 777 Views
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I don't mind either way. - 12/03/2010 10:18:03 AM 584 Views
Your face is an unreliable horse! - 12/03/2010 10:25:32 AM 587 Views
I think it's fairly logical that genre fiction doesn't employ it as often. - 12/03/2010 01:21:06 PM 751 Views
Well, isn't Erikson notable for his unreliable POVs? - 14/03/2010 12:57:25 AM 581 Views
Hm. Yeigh? - 12/03/2010 05:15:41 PM 647 Views
I like it when they are well written - 15/03/2010 08:44:02 AM 781 Views
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I think because of our cynical nature - 19/03/2010 06:58:05 AM 552 Views

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