Active Users:1136 Time:23/11/2024 03:10:09 AM
I actually ran into this in high school. Apsalar Shadowdancer Send a noteboard - 05/02/2010 08:33:10 PM
Germany is now grappling with a proposed move to print and sell a new critical edition of Mein Kampf when Hitler's automatic 70-year postmortem copyright expires in 2015. It's not clear just yet that we'll be able to preorder so that amazon.de can make sure we get delivery on the day of its release (presumably May 1, 2015 would be the first available day), however. The Bavarian government has played the politically correct card to try to keep it from being published or sold in Germany, despite the fact that it is available everywhere else (and apparently very popular in Gaza).

On the one hand, the book is little more than an extended rant by a sociopath that tragically led to the implementation of most of what it advocated and the deaths of tens of millions of people. On the other hand, it bashes the French...I mean, on the other hand, precisely because of its consequences it is one of the "great books" of history ("infamous" is just as fitting an epithet as "great").


I don't think that its such a bad idea to let this book be republished, in fact I am interested in reading it just from a historical perspective. The book just needs to be read with some context.


The article got me thinking about censorship of books and the dissemination of ideas, which led me to think about books that are affirmatively chosen for mandatory reading in schools as well. This train of thought was broken by a desire to have breakfast, but when I returned to it I decided to post a survey here.

1. Are there any books that should ever be censored? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are censored and for whom?


I do not feel that any book should be censored, although i can see why some would. It is about why you read a book, not whats in the book that matters, and thats not something that anyone has any power over. For example, if I were to read "The Satanic Bible" by Anton LaVey it would be from curiosity, to see what ideas came from it, and not from a "awe and worship" point of view. that being said I know that its not really a "bible" per say, more of a book about living life from a selfish point of view.


2. Should any books be withheld from libraries in high schools? If so, why? If so, which ones? Who should decide what books are withheld?


I'm not sure on this, I take more of a middle of the road approach here. I think that not all books should be available to high school students to check out on their own. On the other hand I like what happened to me in high school. I wanted to do a book report on The Catcher in the Rye. I needed to get a note from my parents saying that they knew that I would be reading the book and that I had permission from them to do so. High school students are, for the most part, minors. I think with parental consent that a student should be allowed to read/research any book they wish.


3. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think have had a massive impact on the world, and at least one that is frequently overlooked on lists of that sort.

4. Do you think any of the books you listed in point 3 should be read in schools as mandatory reading? Why or why not?

5. Name five books (aside from religious works) that you think SHOULD be mandatory reading in schools (or at least "on the curriculum" if you don't like the word "mandatory"), and why.


I'm not sure exactly what books would fit either of these list as I am not an avid reader of "controversial" books, but as I said in my previous point, I think that a student should not be told they can not read a book if they have approval from the teacher(related to the coursework) and the parents (mostly to allow the parents some control on how they wish to raise their child). If the student is over 18 I think they should be allowed to read whatever they want.


6. Do you think schools are too careful in choosing books due to pressure from those who would censor the curriculum? If so, which sorts of books do you feel are unjustly censored?


Personally i think that they have a very limited selection at schools, but i understand why. They do not wish to be under pressure from the parents to censor. Most towns have a very well stocked public library for the more motivated student.

7. Do you think schools place too much emphasis on particular themes or ideas when choosing their curriculum? If so, which ones?


I do think that schools have a very "propaganda" like curriculum. For instance they cover WWII heavily, but spend a total of 10 minutes covering the "Trail of Tears" (aka the genocide of the Native American people). This is not unexpected, as they are government run schools in America. They tend to cover history from a purely american perspective.


8. Are there any authors you would remove from school curricula who are presently well-represented? Why?

9. Are there any authors not represented that you would like to see added generally? Why?

10. Is there ONE book (aside from religious works) that you think EVERYONE should read? If so, what book and why?


I can't really comment on the rest of the questions, but I would love if the schools had more free choice on what to read for the students. I see how this wouldn't really work as most students are completely uninterested in proper literature, and I do not wish "twilight" to be on my future son/daughter's curriculum. When I attended high school, I found the teachers very willing to help me when I chose to read books that were not on the curriculum.

In closing, if the parents and teachers work together, I see no reason why a student shouldn't be able to do a report or research on books like Mein Kampf. Under proper context books like that can be very interesting and educational.
Reply to message
Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 05/02/2010 05:15:17 PM 1365 Views
Interesting post - 05/02/2010 06:19:06 PM 872 Views
I agree. One Shakespeare is sufficient. *NM* - 06/02/2010 06:42:51 AM 323 Views
Oh, fun! You mentioned the 语录 by Chairman Mao... - 06/02/2010 06:35:21 PM 780 Views
Tough Subject, censorship - 05/02/2010 07:24:39 PM 903 Views
tough questions - 05/02/2010 08:26:30 PM 845 Views
I never saw the humour in Dilbert... - 06/02/2010 06:28:57 PM 866 Views
I actually ran into this in high school. - 05/02/2010 08:33:10 PM 1019 Views
I found that we covered a lot about American Indian issues in US History. - 06/02/2010 06:23:16 PM 797 Views
we coverd most of those things as well - 06/02/2010 08:08:22 PM 949 Views
Anyone interested in German history in particular and European history in general should read it. - 05/02/2010 08:47:14 PM 976 Views
I think jane austen and the brontes would be good to leave in - 06/02/2010 03:44:10 AM 703 Views
They could read Pride & Prejudice & Zombies instead. *NM* - 06/02/2010 04:03:34 PM 315 Views
They could. It'd be very educational. - 06/02/2010 04:37:23 PM 672 Views
What about... - 18/02/2010 06:57:56 PM 1074 Views
Hmm. - 05/02/2010 09:11:13 PM 852 Views
Love the survey. - 05/02/2010 09:42:29 PM 965 Views
Interesting. Do you really think that Nineteen Eighty-Four is plausible? - 06/02/2010 10:13:56 AM 814 Views
It doesn't have to be plausible as a whole to be relevant. - 06/02/2010 08:28:20 PM 813 Views
I agree entirely - 06/02/2010 10:32:07 PM 888 Views
You raise an interesting point. - 06/02/2010 06:06:20 PM 799 Views
Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 05/02/2010 11:09:41 PM 937 Views
Nietzsche as mandatory reading - that's a fun idea. - 06/02/2010 06:00:29 PM 886 Views
Re: Nietzsche as mandatory reading - that's a fun idea. - 06/02/2010 06:03:59 PM 861 Views
Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 05/02/2010 11:47:08 PM 929 Views
Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 06/02/2010 12:11:06 AM 804 Views
I agree with most of that. But to quote our eminent Camilla... - 06/02/2010 10:30:15 AM 910 Views
I agree on the Shakespeare (and mentioned that below). - 06/02/2010 05:54:50 PM 807 Views
Re: I agree on the Shakespeare (and mentioned that below). - 06/02/2010 06:05:48 PM 915 Views
I don't think high school students need to discuss possibilities for staging. - 07/02/2010 01:36:03 AM 758 Views
I think there is value to discussing staging - 07/02/2010 01:52:47 AM 762 Views
nice post - 06/02/2010 01:27:23 AM 782 Views
Re: nice post - 06/02/2010 01:29:34 AM 795 Views
A lot of people think von Clausewitz is important. - 06/02/2010 05:51:44 PM 718 Views
More than Sun Tzu? *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:31:44 PM 300 Views
Sun Zi was relatively unknown in the West until recently. - 07/02/2010 01:30:06 AM 774 Views
Sure, but he could still have influenced world history by influencing Asia... *NM* - 07/02/2010 01:35:17 AM 327 Views
Doubtful. - 07/02/2010 01:41:01 AM 784 Views
Tom, you did not just write that - 07/02/2010 10:12:40 AM 822 Views
The Mongols are not East Asian. They are Central Asian. - 07/02/2010 03:06:19 PM 804 Views
Neat. - 06/02/2010 06:41:37 AM 1043 Views
Brave New World is an excellent choice. - 06/02/2010 05:15:15 PM 732 Views
Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 06/02/2010 01:44:07 PM 903 Views
I agree that Shakespeare is over-emphasised. - 06/02/2010 04:29:16 PM 672 Views
Before responding to others, I'll post my own responses - 06/02/2010 04:26:53 PM 933 Views
Re: Before responding to others, I'll post my own responses - 06/02/2010 10:34:10 PM 752 Views
Hmm. - 06/02/2010 11:33:02 PM 815 Views
New Zealand has culture? - 07/02/2010 03:25:28 PM 975 Views
Which book of his would you recommend ? - 09/02/2010 04:20:15 PM 764 Views
The Whale Rider is lovely. - 10/02/2010 02:36:01 PM 676 Views
Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 07/02/2010 11:52:02 PM 843 Views
Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 08/02/2010 03:14:24 AM 1028 Views
Re: Censorship, promotion of books and dissemination of ideas. - 11/02/2010 10:58:23 PM 908 Views

Reply to Message