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Re: Well, of course. That's what makes it awesome. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 01/02/2010 07:58:32 AM
1776? Really? I was snortling all the way through that. Mostly at the "I'm high" song, but still.

Well, it's definitely not high drama and there was a lot of comedy, but it was done well enough so that I didn't think it was unbelievable.

I can think of lots of more serious musicals, though, and Phantom would actually be close to the bottom of the list. Ragtime and Assassins are two that immediately come to mind. Then of course there are the ones that start out light and feel like they can't move into the second act without showing that they are very important by turning "dark". That's a trap that SO many musicals, and straight plays especially turn into. (Doubt, History Boys, I'm looking at you.) I think some theatre is afraid that it's not going to be good if it's light in tone all the way through and doesn't have some horrible twist.

Doubt as in the play that got turned into the excellent movie with Mssr Hoffman and Mesdames Adams & Streep? Didn't see the play, but the movie kept a pretty straight tone. Phantom is pretty serious, but it's very melodramatic and that definitely takes away from the seriousness of the musical.

Cabaret and Fiddler do this to some extent in the musical world. Rent tries and fails miserably, because it is horribly executed from the get go.

Fiddler? Eh. I think Fiddler's problem is less that it suddenly gets dark (it starts off seriously enough, really, but kind of sidetracks into humor) and more that it's way too long. Like, at least a fourth of it should be cut. Probably closer to a third.

Sorry, I seem to have gone off on my theatrical rant. I am not sure how I got there. I will think of Little Shop and be happy. :)

No worries. :D
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Obviously I have musicals on the brain. Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 06:36:33 AM 813 Views
Musicals are tricky things to do LadyLorraine - 31/01/2010 07:57:44 AM 550 Views
If sf/f relies on effects, then it doesn't deserve respect. Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 08:04:10 AM 663 Views
I'm not saying it can be done or relies on effects. I'm just saying it might be tricky LadyLorraine - 31/01/2010 06:40:44 PM 529 Views
Dr. Horribles' Sing A Long Blog MightyYT - 31/01/2010 08:37:37 AM 559 Views
I think so. Darth_Katie - 31/01/2010 04:25:27 PM 509 Views
There is a musical episode of buffy.... jh - 31/01/2010 09:50:22 AM 651 Views
The board ends up being about books, but it's actually titled "Sci-Fi & Fantasy." Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 07:23:45 PM 550 Views
Yes, but the site is read and find out. Maybe you should go to listen and find out? *NM* jh - 31/01/2010 07:28:19 PM 235 Views
Tell that to the games board. *NM* Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 07:50:53 PM 225 Views
Which is an interesting example. jh - 02/02/2010 06:41:08 AM 582 Views
Very silly. Less silly, though, when you consider the lack of a Theater/Musicals board. *NM* Ghavrel - 02/02/2010 07:00:00 AM 256 Views
Very interesting question. lord-of-shadow - 31/01/2010 12:19:51 PM 764 Views
Adam's Hitchhiker's Guide stories were originally radio plays Larry - 31/01/2010 06:16:42 PM 660 Views
Which in turn reminds me of the infamous War of the Worlds radio broadcast with Orson Welles... *NM* Legolas - 31/01/2010 06:36:32 PM 222 Views
Nonsense. Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 07:22:25 PM 542 Views
I feel like I'm a broken record, telling you to re-read what I actually said Larry - 31/01/2010 08:40:17 PM 545 Views
Yes, well, it was a fairly weak defense when you started using it. Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 09:23:49 PM 650 Views
I think you're underestimating the number of theater fans LadyLorraine - 31/01/2010 10:00:52 PM 566 Views
I'd have to agree with you - it has become more of a niche. Legolas - 31/01/2010 10:16:02 PM 559 Views
I think cinema has outstripped theater more than theater has declined. Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 10:28:06 PM 466 Views
I don't know, I've seen a theater adaptation of The Hobbit, for instance... Legolas - 31/01/2010 10:11:47 PM 592 Views
Not quite sure what I was thinking about cinema either. My defense was that it was 3 in the morning. Ghavrel - 31/01/2010 10:26:03 PM 497 Views
Good excuse. Legolas - 31/01/2010 10:39:13 PM 693 Views
Yes it is. Ghavrel - 01/02/2010 02:25:44 AM 740 Views
I would definitely count Little Shop of Horrors among some sort of sf/f mold. Cockatiel of Doom - 01/02/2010 12:56:40 AM 708 Views
Definitely. But again, it's campy and ludicrous. Ghavrel - 01/02/2010 02:25:00 AM 602 Views
Well, of course. That's what makes it awesome. Cockatiel of Doom - 01/02/2010 04:57:07 AM 600 Views
Re: Well, of course. That's what makes it awesome. Ghavrel - 01/02/2010 07:58:32 AM 586 Views
There are tons of them ranagrande - 01/02/2010 08:37:35 AM 734 Views
Good point. Ghavrel - 01/02/2010 10:28:07 PM 661 Views
Repo! The Genetic Opera, both the play and the film were great. = Rocky-Horror + Bladerunner *NM* Bookwyrm - 02/02/2010 12:41:31 AM 280 Views
It is 19th century and it is opera . . . .. dadof5 - 02/02/2010 06:55:28 PM 656 Views
Return to the Forbidden Planet smaug - 06/02/2010 10:45:49 AM 736 Views
Yes, Wicked does. *NM* Ghavrel - 07/02/2010 04:19:56 AM 224 Views
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