I don't know, I've seen a theater adaptation of The Hobbit, for instance...
Legolas Send a noteboard - 31/01/2010 10:11:47 PM
and I know other fantasy works, like Pullman's His Dark Materials, have had some success in play format.
Maybe that wasn't what you meant, but then it's not entirely clear to me what you did mean... while lots of plays are set in somewhat supernatural or fantastical settings, it doesn't make much sense to me to write a (new) play that resembles a fantasy or sci-fi novel in terms of worldbuilding and the like. Any good play is mostly about the characters and their interaction, as evidenced by the popular concept nowadays (actually, it's been a popular concept for centuries, I suppose) of taking old classical stories and plays and putting them in a contemporary setting and decor, rather than striving for historical accuracy in the costumes and decors. Jesus Christ Superstar did it, Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet did it, and more theater productions than you can see in a lifetime (that may be slight hyperbole, but not by that much, I don't think ). So how/why write a play that focuses instead on creating a fantasy or sci-fi setting?
As for your statements about there not being SF/F cinema that you can take seriously after 1990, those are fairly baffling. In the top twenty of highest grossing movies ever on IMDB (not adjusted for inflation, but then we're only talking about after 1990 anyway, which all twenty are), I count eight fantasy movies, four sci-fi movies, seven other movies with fantastical or supernatural elements of some kind or other, and exactly *one* that doesn't have any of those elements (Titanic). Now if you disregard blockbusters and only focus on more critically acclaimed movies, the picture does change a lot, but still there has been acclaimed fantasy and sci-fi - just look at this year's District 9, for instance, or Pan's Labyrinth of a few years ago. And on television, there are almost too many shows to count - everything Joss Whedon, Heroes, arguably Lost, Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica, are merely the first bunch coming to mind on a very long list.
Maybe that wasn't what you meant, but then it's not entirely clear to me what you did mean... while lots of plays are set in somewhat supernatural or fantastical settings, it doesn't make much sense to me to write a (new) play that resembles a fantasy or sci-fi novel in terms of worldbuilding and the like. Any good play is mostly about the characters and their interaction, as evidenced by the popular concept nowadays (actually, it's been a popular concept for centuries, I suppose) of taking old classical stories and plays and putting them in a contemporary setting and decor, rather than striving for historical accuracy in the costumes and decors. Jesus Christ Superstar did it, Luhrmann's Romeo + Juliet did it, and more theater productions than you can see in a lifetime (that may be slight hyperbole, but not by that much, I don't think ). So how/why write a play that focuses instead on creating a fantasy or sci-fi setting?
As for your statements about there not being SF/F cinema that you can take seriously after 1990, those are fairly baffling. In the top twenty of highest grossing movies ever on IMDB (not adjusted for inflation, but then we're only talking about after 1990 anyway, which all twenty are), I count eight fantasy movies, four sci-fi movies, seven other movies with fantastical or supernatural elements of some kind or other, and exactly *one* that doesn't have any of those elements (Titanic). Now if you disregard blockbusters and only focus on more critically acclaimed movies, the picture does change a lot, but still there has been acclaimed fantasy and sci-fi - just look at this year's District 9, for instance, or Pan's Labyrinth of a few years ago. And on television, there are almost too many shows to count - everything Joss Whedon, Heroes, arguably Lost, Doctor Who, Battlestar Galactica, are merely the first bunch coming to mind on a very long list.
Obviously I have musicals on the brain.
31/01/2010 06:36:33 AM
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Musicals are tricky things to do
31/01/2010 07:57:44 AM
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If sf/f relies on effects, then it doesn't deserve respect.
31/01/2010 08:04:10 AM
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I'm not saying it can be done or relies on effects. I'm just saying it might be tricky
31/01/2010 06:40:44 PM
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There is a musical episode of buffy....
31/01/2010 09:50:22 AM
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The board ends up being about books, but it's actually titled "Sci-Fi & Fantasy."
31/01/2010 07:23:45 PM
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Yes, but the site is read and find out. Maybe you should go to listen and find out? *NM*
31/01/2010 07:28:19 PM
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Tell that to the games board. *NM*
31/01/2010 07:50:53 PM
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Which is an interesting example.
02/02/2010 06:41:08 AM
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Very silly. Less silly, though, when you consider the lack of a Theater/Musicals board. *NM*
02/02/2010 07:00:00 AM
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Adam's Hitchhiker's Guide stories were originally radio plays
31/01/2010 06:16:42 PM
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Which in turn reminds me of the infamous War of the Worlds radio broadcast with Orson Welles... *NM*
31/01/2010 06:36:32 PM
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Nonsense.
31/01/2010 07:22:25 PM
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I feel like I'm a broken record, telling you to re-read what I actually said
31/01/2010 08:40:17 PM
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Yes, well, it was a fairly weak defense when you started using it.
31/01/2010 09:23:49 PM
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I'd have to agree with you - it has become more of a niche.
31/01/2010 10:16:02 PM
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I think cinema has outstripped theater more than theater has declined.
31/01/2010 10:28:06 PM
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I don't know, I've seen a theater adaptation of The Hobbit, for instance...
31/01/2010 10:11:47 PM
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Not quite sure what I was thinking about cinema either. My defense was that it was 3 in the morning.
31/01/2010 10:26:03 PM
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I would definitely count Little Shop of Horrors among some sort of sf/f mold.
01/02/2010 12:56:40 AM
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Definitely. But again, it's campy and ludicrous.
01/02/2010 02:25:00 AM
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Repo! The Genetic Opera, both the play and the film were great. = Rocky-Horror + Bladerunner *NM*
02/02/2010 12:41:31 AM
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