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I don't get that. Well, of course I do from Tom, but let's put him aside for this discussion. Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 12/01/2010 03:35:21 AM
(Sorry, Tom.)

I'm currently rereading WoT, so I'm definitely in the "light fantasy for pleasure" crowd. But I also am very sick and tired of posts that consist of nothing more than "I JUST READ THE DRESDEN FILES OH MY GOD HARRY DRESDEN IS SO COOL !!!" The problem is that while light fantasy is wonderful to read, it typically makes for really bad discussion. And, as Tom has pointed out (okay, we'll drag him back in for a moment), it ultimately leaves a person wanting for something significantly substantial.

That doesn't mean that we should all stop reading WoT and the Dresden Files (although maybe a little bit more thought than "OMG COOL" or "WTF SUCKS" should go into posts on these topics); it simply means that there are a lot of people on the board who want to have conversations of substance about substantial things. And yes, irritation occurs when books like The Count of Monte Cristo get chosen, especially when the people who choose it don't contribute in depth to discussion on it.

And besides, what Camilla said in Tom's original post about all of this is marvellously true: "We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
"We feel safe when we read what we recognise, what does not challenge our way of thinking.... a steady acceptance of pre-arranged patterns leads to the inability to question what we are told."
~Camilla

Ghavrel is Ghavrel is Ghavrel

*MySmiley*

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The Count of Monte Cristo was a terrible choice for a book discussion. - 09/01/2010 07:41:01 PM 1505 Views
Hey, now (copy/paste) - 09/01/2010 07:48:56 PM 1053 Views
People should think about these things before recommending books. - 09/01/2010 08:13:10 PM 1073 Views
Which is why I voted for Bulgakov's M & M. - 09/01/2010 10:56:00 PM 1142 Views
Agreed. Madame Bovary is serious literature. - 10/01/2010 01:02:34 AM 1003 Views
Are you nuts!!?? - 10/01/2010 08:37:47 AM 1155 Views
I wanted to do that too. - 10/01/2010 01:24:42 AM 903 Views
It's bloody marvellous. *NM* - 10/01/2010 08:05:47 AM 433 Views
Our next discussions will have preselected options. - 10/01/2010 01:00:59 AM 1065 Views
I heartily support the move from democracy to oligarchy! - 10/01/2010 01:04:13 AM 996 Views
I agree. - 10/01/2010 08:01:33 AM 1003 Views
I disagree slightly - 09/01/2010 09:07:12 PM 946 Views
Well, by that standard a Jackie Collins novel is worthy of debate. - 10/01/2010 01:08:04 AM 1002 Views
I think you misunderstand my intent - 10/01/2010 01:10:57 AM 1058 Views
You poopyhead! - 10/01/2010 01:19:11 AM 1095 Views
Oh, I almost forgot - 10/01/2010 01:11:50 AM 995 Views
Ooh...I'd love to hear them!!! What did Eco say to trash Dumas? *NM* - 10/01/2010 01:19:43 AM 376 Views
Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen - 10/01/2010 01:39:28 AM 1062 Views
I love it. Strangely enough, though, he wrote an introduction to the book. - 10/01/2010 01:54:24 AM 922 Views
Not really strange as Eco has long been fascinated by this book - 11/01/2010 05:01:56 PM 951 Views
Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? - 11/01/2010 05:12:55 PM 838 Views
Re: Did he mention it in his book on ugliness? - 11/01/2010 05:52:29 PM 1163 Views
I like Eco's distinction between light fiction and literature. - 12/01/2010 04:16:38 PM 1057 Views
Re: Here's the French translation from Eco's work on supermen - 11/01/2010 03:49:15 PM 1046 Views
That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. - 11/01/2010 05:12:25 PM 871 Views
Re: That's fascinating. Of course, I disagree with Eco's praise. - 11/01/2010 06:22:24 PM 1143 Views
I agree that abridging it would not work well. - 12/01/2010 04:06:26 PM 1023 Views
In which case... - 12/01/2010 05:22:34 PM 832 Views
Yes - 13/01/2010 07:56:08 PM 1120 Views
Not really. - 15/01/2010 01:18:10 PM 1257 Views
I think there are plenty of things that can be discussed. - 09/01/2010 10:00:06 PM 1201 Views
Discussed and put to rest in 5 minutes or less, perhaps. - 10/01/2010 01:17:02 AM 1064 Views
Depends on who you are, one would imagine. - 10/01/2010 08:16:11 AM 1118 Views
<pretentious>Well, why should we cater to the lowest common denominator? - 11/01/2010 02:17:03 AM 1020 Views
Heh. - 11/01/2010 07:49:47 AM 921 Views
I'd laugh... - 11/01/2010 07:21:38 PM 798 Views
Tom is the primary reason I want an ignore feature again. - 12/01/2010 02:17:29 AM 837 Views
I'm glad to hear that. *NM* - 12/01/2010 04:17:30 PM 370 Views
And so you've reached this decision about Tom... - 18/01/2010 10:10:44 PM 1008 Views
I don't get that. Well, of course I do from Tom, but let's put him aside for this discussion. - 12/01/2010 03:35:21 AM 1114 Views
It's frustrating though... - 12/01/2010 04:18:37 AM 1073 Views
I think if you posted that (or something like it) people would reply to it. - 12/01/2010 05:08:53 AM 1078 Views
Perhaps. - 12/01/2010 05:26:38 AM 796 Views
Given the people who have read the Kushiel books, I think you'd be pleasantly surprised. - 12/01/2010 05:58:33 AM 857 Views
I was mostly just giving an example. - 12/01/2010 06:14:04 AM 966 Views
You're not. - 12/01/2010 02:16:09 PM 921 Views
Her next series sounds interesting - 12/01/2010 02:20:17 PM 790 Views
It does, but the reviews I've seen aren't too enthusiastic. - 12/01/2010 02:29:26 PM 831 Views
Yes, but how so? - 12/01/2010 02:39:59 PM 930 Views
Well... - 13/01/2010 07:03:08 PM 995 Views
Honestly... - 13/01/2010 07:51:14 PM 972 Views
Absolutely. - 14/01/2010 12:55:00 PM 1115 Views
Re: Absolutely. - 14/01/2010 01:57:47 PM 945 Views
ah i didn't realize it was already out - 13/01/2010 11:44:53 PM 757 Views
'tis. - 14/01/2010 12:56:11 PM 1160 Views
I really don't think it would. - 12/01/2010 07:49:32 AM 990 Views
I have tried before. - 12/01/2010 01:59:24 PM 897 Views
That's bullshit - 12/01/2010 11:12:55 PM 1028 Views
True, true. - 16/01/2010 08:54:16 AM 729 Views
Luckily for you... - 16/01/2010 08:59:23 AM 1121 Views
Re: "Omigod you read light fantasy?" - 18/01/2010 10:04:41 PM 1207 Views
Har. *NM* - 18/01/2010 10:03:31 PM 535 Views
I'm quite enjoying it. - 09/01/2010 10:40:30 PM 952 Views
A kid's book of adventure doesn't translate into a good book club discussion. - 10/01/2010 01:21:11 AM 873 Views
I have to agree - 11/01/2010 12:36:55 AM 1014 Views
How did you find deeper meaning (pun intended) in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea? *NM* - 11/01/2010 02:17:55 AM 382 Views
It was half bullshit, you must understand - 11/01/2010 03:59:42 PM 888 Views
Come on, there is lovely tragedy there... - 13/01/2010 07:32:49 PM 853 Views
I am pleased to be referenced in a cross-board discussion. *NM* - 18/01/2010 09:29:45 PM 504 Views

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