For me at least, it changes with each story, and each telling.
unr3stricted Send a noteboard - 02/11/2009 07:47:59 PM
In Jordan's WoT, there is TONS of explanation. there is a "scientific" explanation to much of the magic system, and it works. Part of the fun of that series IMO, is that i like to see how it all comes together. Just like in House, or CSI or any of those sort of shows, the magic is in how everything matches up, or in how things are countered. And the SPECIFIC knowledge of that makes it interesting. The knowledge of exactly how the main character etc just defeated the bad guy is better than just knowing that it happened.
On the other hand, there are books like GRRM's aSoIaF series, where magic is neither common, nor scientific. Pretty much just classic "magic" in the sense that it is sorcerers/witches/etc doing whatever it is they do, and OUR characters observing it. There is a certain level of mysticism that is enjoyable there as well, WANTING to know how it is done but not knowing. For me anyways.
I see the problem coming in where authors try and mix mystical and fantastical with scientific. Whenever an author tries to do that, I lose all interest in the magic system. When Terry Brooks tried to go all scientific instead of magical, i lost interest in the entire series. I almost had that experience with Erikson but he didn't go so far.
But that all is just me, I'm interested to see what others think.
On the other hand, there are books like GRRM's aSoIaF series, where magic is neither common, nor scientific. Pretty much just classic "magic" in the sense that it is sorcerers/witches/etc doing whatever it is they do, and OUR characters observing it. There is a certain level of mysticism that is enjoyable there as well, WANTING to know how it is done but not knowing. For me anyways.
I see the problem coming in where authors try and mix mystical and fantastical with scientific. Whenever an author tries to do that, I lose all interest in the magic system. When Terry Brooks tried to go all scientific instead of magical, i lost interest in the entire series. I almost had that experience with Erikson but he didn't go so far.
But that all is just me, I'm interested to see what others think.
What is the purpose of a "good" magic system in fantasy?
02/11/2009 05:15:29 PM
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For me at least, it changes with each story, and each telling.
02/11/2009 07:47:59 PM
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A "good" system can enhance the otherness of the world or characters.
02/11/2009 08:34:02 PM
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Warbreaker felt like it had a lot of untapped potential
03/11/2009 05:55:23 AM
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A part of that is planned, and another part is due to a growing author.
03/11/2009 03:11:58 PM
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I think it takes a couple of things to make a good magic system
02/11/2009 09:25:42 PM
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Concequence is certainly interesting.
03/11/2009 04:02:58 PM
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Indeed.
03/11/2009 04:16:41 PM
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Have you described this here or at Wotmania before?
04/11/2009 09:25:01 AM
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I wrote a little about it at wotmania when Danu was having her last big writing contest.
04/11/2009 02:34:51 PM
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I really don't care as long as it is not horribly inconsistent.
03/11/2009 07:47:48 AM
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The problem with heroes is they are just making it up as the go along
03/11/2009 06:49:25 PM
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That is not without a whole lot of precident in comics. *NM*
03/11/2009 08:04:48 PM
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It doesn't really make a for an internally consisnt magic system OR plot, though. *NM*
03/11/2009 08:14:59 PM
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