It was only a matter of time. I wonder, when will it end?
Dan Send a noteboard - 20/03/2012 08:42:42 PM
And this will happen in the United States soon, to be sure. It already has, with people denouncing To Kill A Mockingbird and editing Huck Finn. Just look at the ranting on that pathetic blog about Tolkien. You can bet she'll get a teaching position down the road, and do her best to ruin anyone who disagrees with her.
It's becoming increasingly Orwellian lately, and it seems like there really are thought police out there. Only, we do it ourselves quite gladly. I wonder if this is what Murakami intended to illustrate with his 'Little People' in 1Q84, as a sad revision of Big Brother. The selfrighteous hoi polloi.
It's becoming increasingly Orwellian lately, and it seems like there really are thought police out there. Only, we do it ourselves quite gladly. I wonder if this is what Murakami intended to illustrate with his 'Little People' in 1Q84, as a sad revision of Big Brother. The selfrighteous hoi polloi.
This board is urgently in need of some activity, so let's see if this does the job... thoughts? For those who, like yours truly, like to pretend they understand Italian (or actually do understand it), the NGO in question makes its point <a href="http://www.gherush92.com/news_it.asp?tipo=A&id=2985">here</a> and reacts to the bucketloads of criticism it received in a follow-up article <a href="http://www.gherush92.com/news_it.asp?tipo=A&id=2986">here</a>.
Divine Comedy is 'offensive and discriminatory', says Italian NGO
Human-rights organisation calls for Dante's 'racist, Islamophobic and antisemitic' epic poem to be removed from classrooms
Alison Flood
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 14 March 2012 16.07 GMT
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here: Dante's medieval classic the Divine Comedy has been condemned as racist, antisemitic and Islamophobic by a group calling for it to be removed from classrooms.
The epic poem, written in the 14th century, is split into three parts, tracing the poet's journey through Inferno, Purgatorio and Paradiso. It is seen as one of the cornerstones of world literature. But the Italian human rights organisation Gherush92, which advises UN bodies on human rights issues, wants it to be removed from school curriculums, or at least used with more caution, because it is "offensive and discriminatory" and young people lack the "filters" to understand it in context.
Gherush92 singled out some particular cantos from Dante's masterwork for criticism: Inferno's 34th, which tells of Judas, endlessly chewed in the teeth of Lucifer, and 28th, in which Mohammed is depicted torn "from the chin down to the part that gives out the foulest sound", as well as Purgatorio's 26th, which shows homosexuals under a rain of fire in purgatory. The work, it says, slanders the Jewish people, depicts Islam as a heresy and is homophobic.
"We do not advocate censorship or burning but we would like it acknowledged, clearly and unambiguously, that in the Divine Comedy there is racist, Islamophobic and antisemitic content," said Valentina Sereni, president of Gherush92, to the Adnkronos news agency. "Art cannot be above criticism."
But Italy's cultural scene has been quick to come to the defence of one the country's most famous works. "The benefits to be gained from reading and studying the Divine Comedy are so many that statements of this kind are just ridiculous," the poet and literary critic Maurizio Cucchi told the news agency. Literary historian, critic and author Giulio Ferroni called the comments "another frenzy of political correctness, combined with an utter lack of historical sense", and said that the Divine Comedy needed to be read in its historical context. "You could also include a few more notes, but it would be folly to abandon the study of a masterpiece that has helped build the image of humanity."
Divine Comedy is 'offensive and discriminatory', says Italian NGO
Human-rights organisation calls for Dante's 'racist, Islamophobic and antisemitic' epic poem to be removed from classrooms
Alison Flood
guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 14 March 2012 16.07 GMT
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here: Dante's medieval classic the Divine Comedy has been condemned as racist, antisemitic and Islamophobic by a group calling for it to be removed from classrooms.
The epic poem, written in the 14th century, is split into three parts, tracing the poet's journey through Inferno, Purgatorio and Paradiso. It is seen as one of the cornerstones of world literature. But the Italian human rights organisation Gherush92, which advises UN bodies on human rights issues, wants it to be removed from school curriculums, or at least used with more caution, because it is "offensive and discriminatory" and young people lack the "filters" to understand it in context.
Gherush92 singled out some particular cantos from Dante's masterwork for criticism: Inferno's 34th, which tells of Judas, endlessly chewed in the teeth of Lucifer, and 28th, in which Mohammed is depicted torn "from the chin down to the part that gives out the foulest sound", as well as Purgatorio's 26th, which shows homosexuals under a rain of fire in purgatory. The work, it says, slanders the Jewish people, depicts Islam as a heresy and is homophobic.
"We do not advocate censorship or burning but we would like it acknowledged, clearly and unambiguously, that in the Divine Comedy there is racist, Islamophobic and antisemitic content," said Valentina Sereni, president of Gherush92, to the Adnkronos news agency. "Art cannot be above criticism."
But Italy's cultural scene has been quick to come to the defence of one the country's most famous works. "The benefits to be gained from reading and studying the Divine Comedy are so many that statements of this kind are just ridiculous," the poet and literary critic Maurizio Cucchi told the news agency. Literary historian, critic and author Giulio Ferroni called the comments "another frenzy of political correctness, combined with an utter lack of historical sense", and said that the Divine Comedy needed to be read in its historical context. "You could also include a few more notes, but it would be folly to abandon the study of a masterpiece that has helped build the image of humanity."
Divine Comedy is "offensive and discriminatory", says Italian NGO
20/03/2012 07:25:08 PM
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Duh?
20/03/2012 07:38:41 PM
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It does kind of feel like we should know more about how it's taught in Italian schools.
20/03/2012 07:50:36 PM
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Isn't the fundamental basis of Christanity mutually exclusive to Judaism and Islam?
20/03/2012 08:33:51 PM
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That's a really good point that I hadn't considered. I agree. *NM*
22/03/2012 09:05:00 AM
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Just because someone is in Hell doesn't mean you should discriminate against them
20/03/2012 08:23:22 PM
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Not having read any Dante is kind of hurting my ability to reply to that.
20/03/2012 10:08:52 PM
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Odd, considering you linked the "offending passages"
20/03/2012 11:54:34 PM
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Yes, well, I was semi-serious with the "pretending to understand Italian".
21/03/2012 07:58:35 PM
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I rather agree with you
21/03/2012 10:09:01 PM
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Taking the Divine Comedy off the curriculum would be like taking Shakespeare out in the UK.
21/03/2012 10:48:15 PM
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But some works of Flaubert aren't considered OK for compulsory reads...
22/03/2012 05:27:04 AM
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The last part of Hell is Giudecca because of Judas.
21/03/2012 10:30:36 PM
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And you don't see what's offensive about that?
21/03/2012 11:11:16 PM
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You are making an assumption that Dante named it after Jewish quarters.
21/03/2012 11:24:47 PM
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Wait, let's be clear just how bat-shit Rick Santorum crazy these assholes are.
21/03/2012 01:06:49 AM
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They also dont seem to realize just how many Muslim nations are calling for the eradication of Israe *NM*
21/03/2012 04:33:53 PM
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There's some things in that paragraph one can roll one's eyes at, aye - but that's as far as it goes
21/03/2012 08:06:32 PM
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Are you serious?! Did you read the whole paragraph?
21/03/2012 10:24:56 PM
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I certainly did. Though as it turns out I had not read their other articles...
21/03/2012 10:59:51 PM
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It was only a matter of time. I wonder, when will it end?
20/03/2012 08:42:42 PM
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I saw that. Seems a little misguided
21/03/2012 07:04:06 AM
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That's what they're advocating. And I wouldn't know - they seem to think it is. *NM*
21/03/2012 08:08:53 PM
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I think that sometimes people take "politicly correct" tooooo far... *NM*
21/03/2012 08:20:31 AM
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Let me sum up my opinion on this as succinctly and clearly as I can:
21/03/2012 11:50:37 PM
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