but I also wanted to make sure you knew you could be.
Answered by comments below, I think.
Also answered below, though I did want to point out that I fully agree that it is necessary to break out of the ol' paradigm and to learn how to be aware of other viewpoints and feelings. I like working on that (though I'm sure I don't always succeed), but I don't think that is what that person is all about, unfortunately. She will have some good points, of course, but for me it all is blown to pieces when she can so easily make the decision to treat another human like shit because that person is white (aka, of different color). And I watched it happen.
I do have to be honest - if I could stand her for more than a few minutes, I might be able to learn something from her. I certainly didn't give her that chance, which is part of what I'm trying to say. She doesn't necessarily appear to be trying to enlighten people - she's trying to be amazing to those who already agree with her. That's fine, but I don't have to respect it or want to read it.
I already know what I'm doing. I always spend time thinking about these things beyond a shallow level, and that will not change. I also like discussing them. However, I will not be taking this argument to her. I've already seen that it's pointless.
She might be, but I have no interest. I'd much rather talk to someone like Tom. For some reason, when he insults me it makes me laugh.
Depends. Are you focused on perceived issues with the person talking about the issue or on the object of that issue? If it is the former, then there is more self-examination to be done, I would guess.
Answered by comments below, I think.
Why does this rile you so? It doesn't bother me at all because I know that I enjoy all sorts of privileges (and for the record, she notes her own in the post I'll link to below) and that sometimes I have to have these things pointed out to me to make sure I don't say/do some really stupid things, because that really could damage working relationships with students from different backgrounds.
Also answered below, though I did want to point out that I fully agree that it is necessary to break out of the ol' paradigm and to learn how to be aware of other viewpoints and feelings. I like working on that (though I'm sure I don't always succeed), but I don't think that is what that person is all about, unfortunately. She will have some good points, of course, but for me it all is blown to pieces when she can so easily make the decision to treat another human like shit because that person is white (aka, of different color). And I watched it happen.
Thing is, sometimes one "wars" for reasons that aren't obviously harmful, but which end up being so. Charity begins at home and before I tell anyone that they need to reform, I best make sure I'm trying to reform myself. Her comments make me think but they don't make me react because I consider things beforehand. I suspect part of the issue here is unfamiliarity with the months-spanning discussions on her blog. I've been following it since June or July and she discusses more than just one or two topics. I don't always agree with them, but then again, I don't always agree with myself after a period of time
I do have to be honest - if I could stand her for more than a few minutes, I might be able to learn something from her. I certainly didn't give her that chance, which is part of what I'm trying to say. She doesn't necessarily appear to be trying to enlighten people - she's trying to be amazing to those who already agree with her. That's fine, but I don't have to respect it or want to read it.
There are two main paths to go from here: 1) Consider why the reactions are occurring and do something about it, or 2) Shrug it off. Being irritated and doing nothing leads to what? That's not for me to answer, except for myself alone.
I already know what I'm doing. I always spend time thinking about these things beyond a shallow level, and that will not change. I also like discussing them. However, I will not be taking this argument to her. I've already seen that it's pointless.
If you're reading her Twitter conversation (and I presume some of her discussions with me), you might have noticed that often there is a lot going on there that is not based in anger or frustration. I think she'd be an interesting person to talk global literature with, as there aren't too many who discusses Twain and Nabokov and their writing vis-a-vis Tolkien.
She might be, but I have no interest. I'd much rather talk to someone like Tom. For some reason, when he insults me it makes me laugh.
The racist elements in Tolkien's writing
29/01/2012 01:31:02 PM
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She has some points, of course.
29/01/2012 02:25:32 PM
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Quite a few points
29/01/2012 02:40:45 PM
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I don't find the tone blunt; I find it leading, patronizing and often wrong or inferring too much.
30/01/2012 01:43:27 AM
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Agreed - reading it, I struggled to find any redeeming qualities
30/01/2012 07:32:58 PM
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Agreed, in general. The tremendous bad faith and sophistry turn me off, though.
29/01/2012 09:31:04 PM
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Mostly agreed with the article, but thought she undermined herself with her own racism.
29/01/2012 02:50:11 PM
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Just read your Twitter convo... nice try, but looks like wasted effort. *NM*
29/01/2012 10:37:08 PM
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Well, I'll be honest.
29/01/2012 10:34:46 PM
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Let me try to summarize some of her points with the invective filtered out, then.
29/01/2012 10:48:24 PM
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Thank you.
29/01/2012 11:10:13 PM
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What the hell, might as well go and play devil's advocate, right?
30/01/2012 04:50:30 PM
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I expected that.
30/01/2012 05:39:59 PM
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Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
30/01/2012 10:28:10 PM
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Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
31/01/2012 12:39:46 AM
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Re: Of course you did. I'm predictable that way.
31/01/2012 08:38:46 PM
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I <3 you, but there are several very key things we are not going to agree on.
31/01/2012 10:02:22 PM
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Hmm?
31/01/2012 10:10:22 PM
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Yeah. I got to reading Encyclopedia of Arda just now, and it told me the same thing.
31/01/2012 10:35:54 PM
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As a sort of group answer (I've been mostly absent from forums the past two days)
31/01/2012 10:45:55 PM
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I don't mind if you tell me I'm out of line here, but
31/01/2012 11:55:04 PM
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I'm rarely ever offended
01/02/2012 01:54:58 AM
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She was referring specifically to the Twitter "conversation" I had with the blogger.
01/02/2012 09:05:28 AM
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Yes.
01/02/2012 10:47:22 AM
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It makes me wonder what she thinks is happening in Zimbabwe, for example.
01/02/2012 11:13:11 AM
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I've been thinking about that.
01/02/2012 11:29:18 AM
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I know that
01/02/2012 11:15:48 AM
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That blog post was mostly good, but the exception is a rather large one.
01/02/2012 08:35:57 PM
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What's a neckbeard? And why am I supposed to care? *NM*
30/01/2012 01:29:07 AM
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neckbeards are when the person (either intentionally or through misfortunate genetics)...
30/01/2012 03:21:09 AM
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acrackedmoon is a racist, sexist bore. And I don't even like Tolkien. *NM*
30/01/2012 01:14:17 PM
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