Patents and copyrights aren't meant to last forever (shouldn't, anyway)
Vivien Send a noteboard - 04/01/2012 10:33:30 PM
Today we have copyrights extended for an unreasonably long time (and if disney continues to have its way, indefinitely), way past the death of the creator of the work.
Nothing can be taken from us that we never had to begin with.
Why should they ever give up their monopoly?
I fail to see any injustices being done or rights violated. If I'm wrong, please explain it to me, rather than just stating that it is so.
The good folks at the Center for the Study of the Public Domain at Duke University put together a depressing list each year of what would have gone into the public domain under copyright law if the law prior to 1978 remained in effect. You can check out this year's unfortunate list of works seized from the public in a retroactive one-sided renegotiation of the deal the copyright holders had with the public. These works should be in the public domain, and they're not... and the public got nothing in exchange for having these works taken away from us. Pulling from their writeup, here are just a few of the works that I thought you might find interesting:
Nothing can be taken from us that we never had to begin with.
The thing is, with the list of works from 1955 above, when they were all created, the maximum term of copyright of 56 years was a perfectly acceptable trade-off for those creators. They got their monopoly, and they created their works. What I can't understand is what the logic is in extending those rights retroactively. Clearly the incentive to create was fine as it was. Why should it change after the work was created?
Why should they ever give up their monopoly?
I fail to see any injustices being done or rights violated. If I'm wrong, please explain it to me, rather than just stating that it is so.
Why Johnny Can't Read Any New Public Domain Books In The US: Because Nothing New Entered The P.D.
03/01/2012 11:33:34 PM
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I find it difficult to see this as stealing rights from the public.
04/01/2012 11:15:35 AM
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Are you arguing for illegal use of legally protected works?
04/01/2012 09:34:18 PM
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No. I'm saying that keeping works in copyright doesn't stop them from being read, watched, etc.
04/01/2012 10:24:50 PM
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That's not the point, though.
05/01/2012 01:05:17 PM
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????
05/01/2012 03:22:58 PM
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Re: ????
05/01/2012 04:04:21 PM
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That isn't inspiration that wanting to use the popularity of the original to promote your work
05/01/2012 05:04:25 PM
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I don't get it.
04/01/2012 05:51:19 PM
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You know those Jane Austen parodies? Only because Jane Austen is in the public domain.
04/01/2012 09:32:20 PM
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Parody is actually covered by the legal definition of fair use so doesn't break copyright.
04/01/2012 10:28:08 PM
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I'm fairly sure the Jane Austen parodies do in fact use actual paragraphs... no? *NM*
04/01/2012 10:31:32 PM
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The zombies one doesn't precisely. It's somewhat modernised. I've not read the others.
04/01/2012 10:32:59 PM
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Yes, they take tons of text from actual books. Contrast this with Ms. Rowling's reaction. *NM*
05/01/2012 07:01:46 PM
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If there's zero chance of needing a lawyer at some point, it's way more likely to actually happen.
04/01/2012 10:43:23 PM
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Answering you specifically
05/01/2012 04:57:33 PM
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Patents and copyrights aren't meant to last forever (shouldn't, anyway)
04/01/2012 10:33:30 PM
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I know they aren't. I don't necessarily agree that they shouldn't though.
05/01/2012 05:01:05 PM
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Re: I know they aren't. I don't necessarily agree that they shouldn't though.
06/01/2012 12:47:50 AM
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That is a very confusing article.
04/01/2012 10:19:22 PM
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Works published between 1923 and 1978 are different
04/01/2012 10:25:16 PM
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Do you think it is right that Disney can protect its movies?
05/01/2012 05:29:08 PM
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Ok, what has movies Disney done lately that were on par with its classics? *NM*
05/01/2012 07:44:20 PM
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And speaking of Disney's classics...
05/01/2012 10:06:16 PM
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Until Disney discovered and copyrighted them, they obviouslty didn't exist. *NM*
06/01/2012 12:58:55 AM
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OK why is that even a point of argument?
06/01/2012 02:42:47 PM
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No incentive to make great new works if they can just keep re-releasing Lion King in 3D *NM*
06/01/2012 09:45:38 PM
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I'm a lot older than your five year old, but I'm not sure I disagree Tangled is better.
06/01/2012 11:12:32 PM
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Well, if corporations are now people, then maybe their copyright could be different? *shrug*
05/01/2012 07:57:38 PM
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Re: Well, if corporations are now people, then maybe their copyright could be different? *shrug*
06/01/2012 01:18:04 AM
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Can you back that up?
06/01/2012 04:17:35 AM
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Re: Can you back that up?
06/01/2012 06:02:01 PM
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Artist/Singers used to *always* be on tour in order to make a living.
06/01/2012 09:34:44 PM
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