So this has been building in me for awhile years actually ever sense noticing the Luddite tendencies in lord of the rings. Why does fantasy have such an anti realist and anti science mindset? Example A Harry Potter. Great for a long while in that the magic had rules and though the rules were outside science it had rules and it allowed there was reality and not reality...than we got the great quote in the final book.
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/07/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2-review
"Of course this is happening in your head but why on earth should that mean it isn't real?" Um what the heck? Something is either real and happening OUTSIDE your head and exists outside of you, or it is happening inside your head is NOT REAL, and wouldn't exist without you. To put it in terms of the novel. Either Dumbeldore exists now in some sort of heaven in reality or he doesn't. You can't have it both ways. Either God exists outside of human conception in some PHYSICAL form or it is just an idea we have made up and thus ISN'T REAL.
Example 2
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/07/travelling-through-death-dreams-seaward
I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with Susan Coopers works. As a young adult fantasy author I would call her one of the best. Certainly one of the few genre authors to win literary awards. The author of the post seems to have issue with them having to forget what they experienced and having to deal with grief, except for mild nagging in the back of the brain, in the real world. Um, this was done on purpose to show the readers that you DON'T NEED this kind of fantasy crutch to survive grief. The characters in the book, just like the readers, are quite capable of dealing with real life in real life with only a nagging memory of the truths in the book. The same kind of nagging truth READING the book will give the readers. Rather than saying to the readers you need a non-real fantasy mirage to deal with real life it shows that you can deal with real life without one. It teaches it's readers to grow up and live in the real morally grey and not pretty world rather than escaping from it. Something good books and good fantasy should do.
Thoughts?
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/07/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-2-review
"Of course this is happening in your head but why on earth should that mean it isn't real?" Um what the heck? Something is either real and happening OUTSIDE your head and exists outside of you, or it is happening inside your head is NOT REAL, and wouldn't exist without you. To put it in terms of the novel. Either Dumbeldore exists now in some sort of heaven in reality or he doesn't. You can't have it both ways. Either God exists outside of human conception in some PHYSICAL form or it is just an idea we have made up and thus ISN'T REAL.
Example 2
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2011/07/travelling-through-death-dreams-seaward
I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with Susan Coopers works. As a young adult fantasy author I would call her one of the best. Certainly one of the few genre authors to win literary awards. The author of the post seems to have issue with them having to forget what they experienced and having to deal with grief, except for mild nagging in the back of the brain, in the real world. Um, this was done on purpose to show the readers that you DON'T NEED this kind of fantasy crutch to survive grief. The characters in the book, just like the readers, are quite capable of dealing with real life in real life with only a nagging memory of the truths in the book. The same kind of nagging truth READING the book will give the readers. Rather than saying to the readers you need a non-real fantasy mirage to deal with real life it shows that you can deal with real life without one. It teaches it's readers to grow up and live in the real morally grey and not pretty world rather than escaping from it. Something good books and good fantasy should do.
Thoughts?
anti science mindset in fantasy?
31/07/2011 07:32:16 PM
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Just wanna say
31/07/2011 10:52:17 PM
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Uhh...
31/07/2011 11:31:29 PM
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Re: Uhh...
01/08/2011 02:00:56 AM
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Shields stop physical things..
01/08/2011 05:16:28 AM
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if the books mention that specifically, fine then
02/08/2011 12:14:47 AM
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Again, read the books...
02/08/2011 07:15:27 AM
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Anti-science
02/08/2011 01:36:04 PM
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That doesn't make it anti-science...
02/08/2011 02:56:58 PM
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Re: That doesn't make it anti-science...
02/08/2011 09:56:41 PM
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Because...
03/08/2011 04:21:43 AM
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Thanks for proving again that books are better than movies... *NM*
01/08/2011 12:17:26 AM
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Well it sounds to me like you're not thinking about the term "science" correctly.
03/08/2011 05:29:42 AM
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personally, I've always seen SF as a sub genre of Fantasy
03/08/2011 07:02:02 AM
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