Your impression is close to being my comments verbatim.
Ghavrel Send a noteboard - 22/04/2011 02:50:18 AM
Steampunk is escapism. That is the point.
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The Sprawl Trilogy and Thoughts Thereof (or What Ever Happened to Cyberpunk?)
- 19/04/2011 10:50:26 PM
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Why I prefer cyberpunk in near future settings to (most) of the steampunk sub-genre.
- 19/04/2011 10:55:57 PM
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The difference is that steampunk, by and large, is very aware of its implausibility.
- 20/04/2011 01:32:57 AM
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You keep giving steampunk backhanded compliments like that and you'll start to confuse me.
- 20/04/2011 02:12:53 AM
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Being entertaining is not a backhanded compliment.
- 20/04/2011 02:34:15 AM
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It is when asserting something is better than a source containing more than entertainment.
- 20/04/2011 03:26:50 AM
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...didn't you wear a top hat to your wedding? *NM*
- 20/04/2011 04:04:42 AM
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IIRC I wore morning dress, the CURRENT standard here.
- 20/04/2011 05:08:26 AM
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Top hats in morning dress have gone the way of the ascot (you didn't wear an ascot, did you?).
- 20/04/2011 05:41:54 AM
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Well, my wife, mother-in-law and the woman at the haberdashery all disagree.
- 20/04/2011 07:05:09 AM
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the ability to wear a costume at a convention is hardly a ringing endorsement of a genre
- 22/04/2011 01:49:40 AM
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Your impression is close to being my comments verbatim.
- 22/04/2011 02:50:18 AM
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I tried to avoid that word, but I'll leave comparisons there and discuss pure cyberpunk henceforth.
- 22/04/2011 03:58:29 PM
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You keep coming back to this argument, and it keeps being a stupid one.
- 22/04/2011 10:33:14 PM
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I also can't help noting how this whole argument mirrors Count Zero.
- 24/04/2011 05:35:01 AM
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I think it's just a matter of two separate genres that share very similar names and perhaps origins.
- 20/04/2011 01:32:50 AM
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It's hard to argue that the genres are separate, but I did try to avoid suggesting a competition.
- 20/04/2011 03:08:49 AM
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Ok, what are you trying to argue for and/or explore in this thread? There are three options:
- 20/04/2011 04:22:52 AM
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It is under-appreciated critically, largely due to relative unpopularity.
- 20/04/2011 06:35:27 AM
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"Victorian Postmodernism" is viable because Postmodernism can appropriate other periods and styles.
- 21/04/2011 01:13:45 AM
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But can other periods and styles appropriate postmodernism?
- 21/04/2011 07:38:29 PM
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I don't think it's a two-way street in that manner. It's PoMo appropriating Victorian not vice versa
- 21/04/2011 11:40:29 PM
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It's only superficially postmodern though, else there'd be no wistfulness for Victorian styles.
- 22/04/2011 03:17:38 PM
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IMO, cyberpunk has become somewhat dated.
- 20/04/2011 04:46:55 AM
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Actually, I can live with that, though terms like "dated" invite trouble.
- 20/04/2011 07:01:50 AM
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Re: Actually, I can live with that, though terms like "dated" invite trouble.
- 22/04/2011 04:12:20 AM
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so...is bladerunner cyberpunk
- 20/04/2011 09:48:15 PM
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It's usually seen as the archetypal cyberpunk film, yeah.
- 21/04/2011 10:50:44 AM
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so cyber is the time and punk is the attitude?
- 21/04/2011 12:57:01 PM
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I don't think the portmanteau is that precisely defined.
- 21/04/2011 08:31:34 PM
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I am amazed that no one has referenced this TVTropes page yet...
- 23/04/2011 07:45:14 PM
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Playing with fire; I should've known TVTropes would exhaustively cover the derivatives.
- 24/04/2011 03:11:56 AM
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It's always hard to pigeonhole things, especially as they become more specific
- 24/04/2011 06:27:28 PM
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The "dated" idea is interesting.
- 23/04/2011 08:08:26 PM
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PS the Takeshi Kovacs books are great, and you should all go read them *NM*
- 23/04/2011 08:09:54 PM
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*MN*
I think it underestimates cyberpunk, and overestimates (present) reality (yes, spoilers now).
- 24/04/2011 02:24:01 AM
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