No, the goal of the book (or one of them) was to illustrate authentic dialogue. Your brain sucks.
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 04/01/2011 11:49:13 PM
I push back against the idea of modifying a great book just out of instinct but I don’t think that is the right reaction. They abridge books all the time to make them acceptable for younger readers if only by making them shorter.
That's for morons and to make them accessible to people who lack the experience and ability or time to read it in it's proper form. I read the book when I was in fourth grade and I didn't need abridgment, so I don't know who the hell such a hypothetical version would be aimed at. You can't get much between fourth grade and See Spot Run. In any event, this is changing the books to suit the DISTASTE of certain parties for them. Why not go around and change the endings of books to suit the popular mindset while you're at it.
This is much less change then that.
A punch in the mouth is less traumatic than surgery, but one of those is a crime and the other is a service for which considerable payment is offered. Degree is irrelevant, principle is what matters.If I was a fourth grade teacher I would be very leery of introducing this book to my classroom with the n word in it.
Mine wasn't. Guess how I learned the word? Reading "Tom Sawyer", as assigned by my 3rd & 4th grade teacher. I asked my mother what it meant (from the use early in the book I thought it meant a practioner of some obscure sect of supertition), and after her fit of apoplexy, once she ascertained where I learned it, she explained to me the use and context. Or do you think children should learn the word from rap music? The way I learned it made it absolutely certain that I knew how people used it, that it was not a word to use casually, and underscored for me the history of racial injustice by showing that at one time and in some places, it was acceptable to use such a foul term casually. If adults have to call it the n word instead of saying even if they are not using it refer to a person then how the hell are going to expect twelve year-olds to handle it better.
Maybe the adults shouldn't be such pussy little bitches and expect the world to conform to their sensibilities. What is it the liberals (like the publishing house in question) are always saying when defending pornography and blasphemous "art"? "If it bothers you, don't look at it." It is an important work and we should not let one word keep children from reading it.
So instead, let's kill what makes it "important" ! That sentence, standing on its own is absolutely correct. In context of the rest of this post and the subsequent statement, it is absolutely backwards. I think it is important to keep i9n mind that the kids will have access to the book in its original form it just won’t be the form used in class.
Doesn't that make the censorship rather pointless then? Anyway, the issue is not simply another abridged version, it is that this is going to purport to be the real thing. Besides ther word does offend some people today and being offensive what not the goal of the book.
Then what WAS the goal of the book? It seems to me that a significant intent was to illustrate the attitudes, behaviors and speech patterns of certain regions. How does sterilizing it to appease a contemporary fad meet that goal? Why not change all the phonetic-spelled dialects to proper spelling for "ease of reading"? Much of that dialogue was redundant, and is only in the story to show how people talked, so altering that eliminates that aspect of the story and leaves you with a lot of people talking unnecessarily. Also, removing the words undercuts the effect of their use. When Huck confesses the difficulty in lowering himself to apologize to a slave, the impression is one of socio-economic seperation. If he says "black man" it becomes clinical and detached and an objective self-assessment, rather than conveying how he felt. Only by leaving in the word nigger do we get the connotation of superiority and how it clashes with what he knows to be right and wrong and how Jim is shafted by the whole society and how that same culture has made doing the right thing difficult for Huck. The latter, however, is what the author intended.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
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Deus Vult!
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“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
This message last edited by Cannoli on 04/01/2011 at 11:49:35 PM
New Edition of Huckleberry Finn will eliminate offensive words
04/01/2011 07:16:36 PM
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That's nothing that new. I read Sawyer and Huck Finn when I was like 10, and it was definitely water
04/01/2011 07:45:07 PM
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That's new to me.
04/01/2011 09:35:05 PM
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There's a difference between a kids' version and a normal version with a censored word, though. *NM*
04/01/2011 11:19:26 PM
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Wouldn't the "kids' versions" ALREADY have that word excised? *NM*
04/01/2011 11:53:09 PM
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Read real books then. What kind of ten year old needs to read dumbed down children's books?
04/01/2011 11:21:27 PM
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my gut says it wrong but my brain says it is OK
04/01/2011 09:11:00 PM
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No, the goal of the book (or one of them) was to illustrate authentic dialogue. Your brain sucks.
04/01/2011 11:49:13 PM
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I see logic isn't your strong point.
05/01/2011 04:09:27 PM
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Re: I see logic isn't your strong point.
08/01/2011 01:32:16 AM
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it still boils down to the fact that most teachers will not use a book with word nigger in it
08/01/2011 02:55:29 AM
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Wow. Hmm.
04/01/2011 09:31:27 PM
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naw Twain was a pinko liberal *NM*
04/01/2011 09:46:57 PM
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"Roar! You changed my book and now I eats you! Bwahaha"...umm...we really need a zombie smiley.
04/01/2011 10:59:39 PM
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It's probably a bad idea
04/01/2011 11:06:02 PM
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