Re: He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
Camilla Send a noteboard - 29/12/2010 03:39:07 PM
What does this book make you think of Kay as a writer?
I'm still trying to figure out why I love that about Tigana, but it irked me here. I think it's just I saw more clearly what he was doing here - either because I'm a more experienced reader now, or because he doesn't do it as deftly. Rebekah commented too on how often he does the dramatic announcements of what a certain day or moment would mean to a character, or how often he/she would remember it. There's another element that feels perhaps even cheaper, and that is the misdirecting. The scene of Velaz's death. We see a dead body, and Jehane shocked and devastated about it. First assumption is of course that it's Rodrigo, which is proven wrong soon enough. Then Kay has his little game where he starts eliminating other possibilities (my next thought was Alvar, so then we see that it wasn't Alvar either) and then finally makes the dramatic reveal: it's Velaz! I don't know, it seemed kind of in bad taste to me, if that makes any sense.
I agree entirely. And I feel the same way about the epilogue. It is tailored to make you believe Ammar died and Jehane for some reason married Alvar. It was very silly and completely removed any emotional impact from either scene.
The atmosphere really works, though. It's kind of hard to know - as I said, tainted judgement - how much of that is his descriptions, and how much my own knowledge of the period filling in the gaps, but I think most of the credit is his alright. But here too I'm in conflict - I kind of feel he went overboard in accelerating the Reconquista from a four centuries thing into taking all of twenty years, and happening in its entirety during Ammar's lifetime. You may wonder how that's relevant to the atmosphere - the relevance is that it's overdoing the "end of an era" feel, and making the whole thing more dramatic than it needed to be. I think I would've preferred a more historically correct ending, albeit with Kay making clear that the days of "al-Rassan" were counted.
I think what he does well is allow you to draw on your own ideas of the period. He works well with allusion.
I am torn on the historical accuracy bit. While I was annoyed by the very sudden victory, I am able to justify it as relying on the idea of a period, not as a recounting of it; which is something he can do by removing his world so much from our own.
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The Lions of Al-Rassan by Guy Gavriel Kay: the November/December Book Club
18/11/2010 09:33:45 AM
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Prologue and Part One - the pieces are moved into place.
18/11/2010 09:37:08 AM
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I've read this before, more than once, but I can remember very little of what happens.
18/11/2010 12:58:44 PM
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Re: I've read this before, more than once, but I can remember very little of what happens.
20/12/2010 07:31:10 PM
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Part Two: Exile *NM*
18/11/2010 09:38:21 AM
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I still like it.
22/12/2010 09:27:09 AM
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Part Three
18/11/2010 09:40:26 AM
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Still no major objections
25/12/2010 04:07:43 PM
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Overall thoughts: did you like the book?
18/11/2010 09:41:54 AM
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The characters: Jehane, Ammar, Rodrigo
18/11/2010 09:45:51 AM
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A superficial point:
18/11/2010 08:33:58 PM
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Yes. Phèdre no Delaunay de Montrêve (as opposed to Racine's Phèdre).
18/11/2010 08:37:49 PM
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The technicalities: writing style, plotting, etc.
18/11/2010 09:48:48 AM
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He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
18/11/2010 09:02:13 PM
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Re: He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
21/11/2010 06:13:32 PM
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Re: He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
29/12/2010 03:40:31 PM
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Re: He really does love his drama. (spoilers for late in the book)
29/12/2010 03:39:07 PM
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Because I was amusing myself with this during the read: on meanings of names and places
18/11/2010 03:38:39 PM
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I wish I had the time and brainpower to do that when reading books.
18/11/2010 07:48:30 PM
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Actually, I'm not sure if it really enhanced the reading experience.
18/11/2010 08:11:29 PM
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Hm.
18/11/2010 08:15:32 PM
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Supposedly it's based on Italy? But yeah, maybe that's only superficial.
18/11/2010 08:25:54 PM
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A note on your Tigana comment..
18/11/2010 08:24:24 PM
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I did not catch all of those. Certainly not the arabic name-references.
29/12/2010 11:53:46 PM
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Us and Them: how can we do this to each other?
21/11/2010 06:07:46 PM
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