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Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. Camilla Send a noteboard - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM
Is Rowling successful in creating doubt as to whether Dumbledore is really dead? I never bought into it, but that was in part because I knew she had stated that no one would return from the dead in her books. I cannot help think that this would have been a strong red herring if I had not known that. But I think I would also be disappointed when it turned out Dumbledore was not back. As it is, I like the Aberforth enigma.

I didn't think she was successful with that suggestion. Since Dumbledore was dead, I was curious about whose eye Harry was seeing, but never thought it was Dumbledore's.


Did you also already know that she had said she would not bring anyone back from the dead?

We also learn that you cannot disapparate from inside a Fidelius Charm.

I thought we learned that from 12 Grimmauld Place.


Originally, yes. But after they left it, it was suggested that the death eater could have apparated friends of his into the place now that he had seen it.
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Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 1846 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2021 Views
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I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 1769 Views

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