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I don't care. Start a fight. Tom Send a noteboard - 16/12/2010 08:24:22 PM
If you doubt that French culture is dying, look at the sad state of France itself. France is a country that now has as many TV channels in Arabic as in French and an unsustainable economy driven by strikes. I'm not going to go as far as the author of Eurabia or the neocons in America generally and say that France is irrevocably doomed, but France has lost its status as a cultural trend-setter completely, just like it lost economic significance after the war. It's not just the Islamification of large parts of the suburbs of Paris and other major cities - that would be an oversimplification worthy of Fox News. It's a far deeper phenomenon, and a far more complicated one.

However, few people will deny that France is past its prime. From what I can tell, a fair number of French are dissatisfied with the current state of things as well (and they voted for Sarkozy, thankfully). I sympathize with them and with the rich, vibrant culture that has been almost destroyed. As a result, I'll take exception to your statements only as follows:

1. I do not despise France, though it has become a terrible trainwreck of a nation
2. I do not despise those French who want to make their country competitive without losing its identity
3. Sarkozy has tried to turn things and I think highly of him

However, if you want to say that I look down on people who can't learn the passé simple or properly use it in writing, then yes, I most emphatically do. If you want to say I look down on French people who wallow in a morass of entitlements, then yes, I do. If you think I`m implying that France has lost much of what made it great, then yes, I am. I admit all of that and am not trying to equivocate on any of those points.

Perhaps it`s not worth pointing out, but Québec seems to have retained a rich and truly French culture despite massive pressures from the English-speaking world around it. Montréal is a wonderfully French city and there is little that I could or would fault in their ability to mix a modern, multicultural society with a strong and assertively French flavor. Given that Canada`s economic system seems to work pretty well (for all I make fun of Canada), France could probably benefit from studying Québec a bit more.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Maurice Druon - The Accursed Kings - 13/12/2010 08:19:21 PM 7841 Views
Thank you for giving this review - I had forgotten the name of the author and series. - 13/12/2010 09:29:59 PM 1664 Views
You're welcome (and thanks for the correction, edited). - 13/12/2010 10:23:55 PM 1688 Views
I know it's not "literary". (EDITED) - 13/12/2010 10:42:33 PM 1591 Views
Subjunctive imperfect, yeah. - 13/12/2010 10:51:34 PM 1653 Views
And with regard to your edit, I don't have a problem with passé simples myself. - 13/12/2010 10:53:59 PM 2013 Views
But how can one read any French literature at all without encountering the passé simple? - 15/12/2010 03:39:37 AM 1823 Views
The point is it is a "literary" tense - 15/12/2010 10:19:59 AM 1804 Views
Why would I read a lower style of book (I won't use the term "literature" to describe them) ? - 16/12/2010 06:11:36 AM 1600 Views
I don't want to start a fight here, but your attitude is seriously starting to grate. - 16/12/2010 06:54:30 PM 1871 Views
I don't care. Start a fight. - 16/12/2010 08:24:22 PM 1769 Views
Well, or we can have a civil debate on French culture, I suppose... also fun. - 16/12/2010 09:09:20 PM 1761 Views
Well, I'm up for that, too. - 17/12/2010 05:48:39 AM 1746 Views
Good. - 17/12/2010 09:01:37 PM 2090 Views
Ah - I support the subjunctive!!! - 18/12/2010 05:10:38 AM 1957 Views
TANGENT - 18/12/2010 09:56:31 AM 1848 Views
This whole conversation is just a pile of tangents, anyway. *NM* - 18/12/2010 01:30:09 PM 847 Views
I enjoy the tangent. - 21/12/2010 12:43:23 AM 1514 Views
But you don't think its disappearance corresponds to a decline in American culture? - 18/12/2010 01:29:43 PM 1737 Views
I read Der Zauberberg in English already. - 21/12/2010 12:48:16 AM 1579 Views
About the passé simple, what Camilla said. As for medieval vocabulary... - 15/12/2010 07:17:44 PM 1758 Views
"Ne...point" is used in Stendhal all the time. - 16/12/2010 06:08:40 AM 1651 Views
That looks like a really fascinating series. - 13/12/2010 10:56:52 PM 1714 Views
Step up your French lessons!!! - 13/12/2010 11:50:21 PM 1888 Views
That is a great reason to learn French. - 14/12/2010 07:29:54 PM 1622 Views
Re: That is a great reason to learn French. - 14/12/2010 08:13:59 PM 1627 Views
Fancier English often turns out to be French, of course. *NM* - 17/12/2010 06:41:19 PM 915 Views
Ooooh - 14/12/2010 07:41:03 PM 1547 Views
I'm really not quite sure how you managed that. - 14/12/2010 08:09:55 PM 1715 Views
Re: I'm really not quite sure how you managed that. - 14/12/2010 08:13:48 PM 1605 Views
I meant Bertière, yeah. Dumas works too, though. - 14/12/2010 08:18:30 PM 1672 Views

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