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Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla Send a noteboard - 14/12/2010 10:45:36 PM
And he uses the Cruciatus curse in the next set of chapters as well, without blinking. It is a little disturbing.

On the Carrows, I take it? That is disturbing, yes... the gloves have to come off, okay, but it should be harder for him than that.


Yes.

True. Although I think a fairly convincing case could be made for Voldemort feeling much more strongly when he sees him now. And it has been established before that the connection is stronger when there is strong emotion involved. And when Harry is tired, which by now he is -- he fights a dragon and then does not sleep until the book is over, I think.

That's true, but still... kind of odd that after book five, Harry still profits from the connection so much while Voldemort doesn't.


The Power of Love, I suppose ;)

I sometimes have the sneaking suspcion that Fleur's veela charms have translated through the books and affected you :P

Not really, or I wouldn't be complaining about her lack of depth. :P And there are moments in the series that she's a bit of a bitch - early on to the Weasleys, most notably, even if they exaggerate enormously in the complaining about her. But here, I just don't see it.


:P

True. But then so is Molly.

Yes, but Molly has seven children - it would be a big feminist statement indeed to have her have a career while raising seven children. Fleur seems to have given up on the idea of a career from the start of her marriage, though of course the circumstances make having a career hard for everyone.


True.

There is a difference of understanding. I fail to see why the wizards' view must be the right one here. If the goblins make something and say that you can pay to borrow it for as long as you live, and then the wizards keep it and pass it on to their children, I'd say they have a legitimate grievance.

As an economist, I cannot really see the difficulty. :P Either the contract of sale contains such a clausule, or it does not. If the transaction was concluded by both parties of their own free will, the one whose view was not mentioned in the contract of sale has nobody but himself to blame.


Not so if the word "sale" has different meanings in the two cultures. If "sale" to goblins entails a lease for the lifetime of the person, exclusively and irrevocably, then it is as much the wizard's fault for not clarifying that this should also extend to his (or, indeed, her) children. As it is, I doubt they had a contract where this was spelt out: I imagine it went "look, here is a sword; I give you money, you give me the sword". Which leaves a lot open. And if both cultures assume theirs is the default way, then there is no reason why they would clarify it.

It depends how thoroughly obscure horcruxes are. If they have never heard of them, there would be no reason to make the connection.

That's true... at one point I seem to remember it was to implied just about every Dark wizard worth a damn had at least toyed with the idea of a Horcrux, but then if we look at our sample size of two, Grindelwald doesn't seem to have had one, so that reduces it to 50%. :P Slughorn knew about them, but then he's an academic and I believe older than either of them. I guess it's impossible to tell.


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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows Rebekah - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 3826 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. Rebekah - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 1665 Views
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Re: Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! Camilla - 04/12/2010 10:33:03 PM 1831 Views
all the un-evil ones. nossy - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 1719 Views
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Maybe? Camilla - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 1606 Views
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I wondered that same thing. *NM* Gher - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 890 Views
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Er, I posted this in the wrong place. That's what I get when I try to catch up. Sorry. *NM* Legolas - 06/12/2010 08:34:06 PM 902 Views
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I'll see what I can do. *NM* Rebekah - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 925 Views
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And? And? And? *NM* Rebekah - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 879 Views
Did we have a discussion for a previous book about how many wizarding schools there are? Rebekah - 04/12/2010 10:21:42 PM 1834 Views
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Plotting, writing, theming. Rebekah - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 1876 Views
Apparating and the fidelius charm, some good plotting and the food problem. Camilla - 04/12/2010 10:01:16 PM 1892 Views
Anything else? *NM* Rebekah - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 911 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. Legolas - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 1730 Views
Re: It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:17:42 PM 1671 Views
Good catch Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:19:21 PM 1604 Views
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Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1644 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1603 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. Legolas - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1611 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. Camilla - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1659 Views
True, but still. *NM* Legolas - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 852 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! Rebekah - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 1710 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 1845 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? Legolas - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1653 Views
But wait! There's more! Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 1671 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. Camilla - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1360 Views
Re: As nutty as squirrel poo. Rebekah - 06/12/2010 10:32:04 PM 1691 Views
Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* Legolas - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 884 Views
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Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 1699 Views
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What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? Legolas - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 1744 Views
Very, very true. *NM* Camilla - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 858 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. Rebekah - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 1821 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. Camilla - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 1720 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. StormCrow - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 1704 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". Legolas - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1676 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". Camilla - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1664 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". StormCrow - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 1854 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! StormCrow - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1415 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 848 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. Legolas - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1609 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. Camilla - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 1810 Views
Plus, it totally cheapens ability and skill if you have some "magic (magic) wand". Legolas - 10/12/2010 08:56:28 PM 1744 Views
Re: Plus, it totally cheapens ability and skill if you have some "magic (magic) wand". Camilla - 10/12/2010 08:59:41 PM 1843 Views
That's definitely a part of it. Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:09:54 PM 1702 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* Rebekah - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 860 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1611 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 907 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore Camilla - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 1919 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore Legolas - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 1737 Views
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On a side note about wands Camilla - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 1772 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. Legolas - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 1793 Views
Re: Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. Camilla - 14/12/2010 09:04:43 PM 1848 Views
Harry: Rebekah - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1655 Views
Re: Harry: Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 1715 Views
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Plot, writing, themes. *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:13:37 PM 901 Views
An epiphany, Gollum, wands, the fidelius charm, grief, love and a strange blurring Camilla - 10/12/2010 11:24:05 PM 1657 Views
Re: An epiphany, Gollum, wands, the fidelius charm, grief, love and a strange blurring Rebekah - 20/12/2010 01:00:38 PM 1820 Views
Re: An epiphany, Gollum, wands, the fidelius charm, grief, love and a strange blurring Camilla - 20/12/2010 07:32:48 PM 1833 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* Legolas - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 871 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1653 Views
Characters *NM* Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:03:29 PM 859 Views
Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 14/12/2010 05:16:51 PM 1799 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:04:09 PM 1764 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:19:04 PM 1841 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:37:00 PM 1710 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:45:36 PM 1839 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:33:49 PM 1856 Views
Re: Harry, Fleur, Ron, Griphook, Lupin, the dragon, Bellatrix and Voldemort. Camilla - 20/12/2010 07:35:51 PM 2035 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 855 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. Camilla - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1573 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 1807 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 1844 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2020 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. Camilla - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 1755 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 768 Views
Film stuff Camilla - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1665 Views
Excellent point. Legolas - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1651 Views
Re: Excellent point. Camilla - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1666 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? Cockatiel of Doom - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1570 Views
Both, ideally. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1601 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1671 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* Camilla - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 875 Views
Seconded. Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 1779 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 897 Views
Characters *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 830 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Camilla - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 1933 Views
Various characters. Cockatiel of Doom - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 1711 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2026 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Rebekah - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 1783 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:02:45 PM 1761 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 1885 Views
Yes Camilla - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 1696 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins Legolas - 26/12/2010 08:43:03 PM 1770 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 852 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good Camilla - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 1760 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good Rebekah - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 1734 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 1920 Views
Other things. *NM* Rebekah - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 874 Views
Filch and a password. Camilla - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 1713 Views
Re: Filch and a password. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1679 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale Rebekah - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 1732 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. Rebekah - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1610 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 1949 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 1799 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 1719 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. Legolas - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2099 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. Rebekah - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 1753 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1506 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 1826 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 1705 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Legolas - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 1697 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. Camilla - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 1839 Views
Other matters. *NM* Rebekah - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 781 Views
More film stuff. Camilla - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1611 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1609 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1639 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 1764 Views
The Malfoys and Molly Legolas - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 1853 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly Camilla - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 1855 Views
Tying up the plot. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1619 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 1758 Views
Anything else? Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 1674 Views
Epilogue: the future. Rebekah - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 1749 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. Camilla - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2021 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. Legolas - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 1767 Views
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