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As Katie said, the husband is still around. Legolas Send a noteboard - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM
I agree. I wonder whether the other female death eaters are under Voldemort's spell in the same way as Bellatrix. Could there be some way in which it is acceptable for them to act as something outside their position as women based on some sort of obsession cult around Voldemort? I am speculating wildly now, in an attempt to make sense of the apparent contradiction. Or is there a married woman/unmarried aspect? Bellatrix was married, but what happened to her husband? Did he get killed?

He may well resent his wife being only interested in Voldemort, but if he does he's smart enough not to make that public. And nah, I think Bellatrix is a special case there. I figure the sexism is just not entirely consistent - women taking active roles is frowned upon, but not unheard of. And Narcissa's presence at the meeting may be more because she's the host than because she takes an active role as a Death Eater.
It is written later, but I still think there was an element of the Grand Tour up until the first world war. Although less fixed in form.

Okay.
You mean that the lack of a fluffy set of happy memories which has been Dudley's cushion all his life was such a shock it make him catatonic on its own, without any particularly bad memory to cause it?

I mean that you seem overly fixated on the unhappy memories aspect of the Dementors. For Harry the memories of his parents' death is of course the worst part of a Dementor attack, but even if someone had no unhappy memories at all, such an attack would be traumatic - the cold, the feeling of helplessness, the feeling that there is nothing good in the world anymore.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book 7 - The Deathly Hallows - 24/11/2010 07:47:44 PM 3828 Views
Suggestions - tell us what we could do better for this final discussion. - 24/11/2010 07:48:22 PM 1665 Views
Spoilers for book 7? - 24/11/2010 09:07:28 PM 1806 Views
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*cough* - 16/12/2010 01:05:05 PM 1803 Views
The series as a whole: overall thoughts about the Harry Potter universe and all it contains - 24/11/2010 07:49:21 PM 1713 Views
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This might be the only book other than the first where I actually like Harry. - 30/11/2010 03:13:25 PM 1694 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 30/11/2010 03:22:20 PM 929 Views
Argh, I keep mixing everything up with the movie! - 04/12/2010 03:45:24 PM 1825 Views
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all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:54:22 PM 1720 Views
Re: all the un-evil ones. - 04/12/2010 11:57:09 PM 1793 Views
It's not as boring as I thought it was. - 06/12/2010 10:52:17 PM 1644 Views
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Yes and no - 26/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 1824 Views
Chapters 1-3: The Dark Lord Ascending, In Memorian, The Dursleys Departing. - 24/11/2010 07:51:29 PM 1773 Views
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Snape, Draco, Lucius, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Harry, Ms Burbage, Dumbledore, and the Dursleys. - 24/11/2010 11:46:16 PM 1901 Views
Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:44:36 PM 1973 Views
Re: Draco, female Death Eaters, Dumbledore. - 25/11/2010 04:53:25 PM 1849 Views
I always forget Bellatrix is married. - 26/11/2010 03:28:24 AM 2138 Views
As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 10:56:30 AM 1874 Views
Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 26/11/2010 11:12:18 AM 1859 Views
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Re: As Katie said, the husband is still around. - 06/12/2010 08:41:56 PM 1761 Views
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*spoilers for book 7* - 24/11/2010 11:47:19 PM 1903 Views
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Re: *spoilers for book 7* <--- - 27/11/2010 11:42:47 AM 1991 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 24/11/2010 07:53:46 PM 774 Views
The epigraphs. - 24/11/2010 10:06:58 PM 1878 Views
I had considered making a separate section just for them. - 27/11/2010 11:44:01 AM 1702 Views
other stuff - 24/11/2010 11:47:54 PM 1639 Views
I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 25/11/2010 04:26:58 PM 1656 Views
Re: I've always thought Rowling went overboard with the Nazi links. - 27/11/2010 01:20:44 AM 1729 Views
Isn't it "the dear departed" and "dearly beloved"? *NM* - 26/11/2010 11:32:22 PM 880 Views
Maybe? - 26/11/2010 11:34:32 PM 1608 Views
Chapters 4-6: The Seven Potters, The Fallen Warrior, The Ghoul in Pyjamas *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:27:53 PM 884 Views
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Re: the film & Hermione - 26/11/2010 08:38:05 PM 1621 Views
Oh yes. - 26/11/2010 08:46:23 PM 1735 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 01:24:40 AM 1685 Views
Re: the film & Hermione - 27/11/2010 12:01:19 PM 1636 Views
Me too - 04/12/2010 03:40:38 PM 1673 Views
The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:01:35 PM 1663 Views
Re: The Delacours - 30/11/2010 03:23:33 PM 1607 Views
The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 26/11/2010 07:30:35 PM 1631 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 27/11/2010 11:59:36 AM 1998 Views
Re: The Plot. The Writing. The Other Technical Things. - 30/11/2010 03:05:38 PM 1850 Views
Yes, Dumbledore gives a very complex answer about the wand thing - 01/12/2010 08:44:57 PM 1628 Views
The Portkeys make a certain amount of sense, actually. - 06/12/2010 08:56:24 PM 2059 Views
Good point! - 06/12/2010 09:59:11 PM 1733 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 26/11/2010 07:30:49 PM 878 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 01:30:12 AM 1679 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 03:30:26 AM 1654 Views
Re: Any other thoughts? - 27/11/2010 12:04:21 PM 1722 Views
Mr Weasley's additions to the motorbike are hilarious. - 27/11/2010 06:48:50 PM 1727 Views
Chapters 7-9: The Will of Albus Dumbledore, The Wedding, A Place to Hide - 29/11/2010 06:39:52 PM 1601 Views
The characters: usual suspects, Scrimgeour, Doge, Krum, Luna, Xenophilius, etc. - 29/11/2010 06:41:41 PM 1714 Views
Mrs Weasley, Ginny, Lupin, Mr Lovegood, Luna, Hermione - 29/11/2010 06:56:31 PM 1795 Views
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I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:00:28 PM 1680 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 09:55:00 PM 1648 Views
Re: I just realized something about Krum. - 06/12/2010 10:06:01 PM 1823 Views
The action. - 29/11/2010 06:42:10 PM 1602 Views
Plotting, mainly. - 29/11/2010 06:57:06 PM 1726 Views
Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 02:23:51 PM 1685 Views
Re: Hermione and obliviate. - 30/11/2010 03:24:06 PM 1725 Views
I think this was a Rowling mistake. It happens - 01/12/2010 08:32:25 PM 1751 Views
I wondered that same thing. *NM* - 02/12/2010 05:09:49 AM 890 Views
I might have my timeline mixed up - 04/12/2010 04:12:50 PM 1734 Views
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Kreacher quoting Regulus raises an interesting point... - 06/12/2010 08:33:02 PM 1869 Views
Re: Kreacher quoting Regulus raises an interesting point... - 06/12/2010 09:52:59 PM 1815 Views
IIRC - 06/12/2010 10:06:23 PM 1898 Views
Re: IIRC - 06/12/2010 10:09:44 PM 1798 Views
Please, sir, may I have some more? *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:44:14 PM 831 Views
I want magic for my wedding *NM* - 29/11/2010 06:57:29 PM 882 Views
I'll see what I can do. *NM* - 30/11/2010 02:58:17 PM 925 Views
I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 02:59:04 PM 1743 Views
Re: I love the use of Patronuses (Patroni?) as messengers. - 30/11/2010 03:24:35 PM 1614 Views
And back in book 4. Dumbledore sends Hagrid a message like this - 01/12/2010 08:33:46 PM 1683 Views
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Characters: more of the trio, Kreacher, Mundungus, RAB and Umbridge - 01/12/2010 11:42:34 PM 1619 Views
Hermione and Ron, Sirius, Regulus, Kreacher, Lupin, Harry, Scrimgeour - 02/12/2010 09:11:21 AM 1914 Views
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Not surprising, perhaps. - 06/12/2010 09:56:58 PM 1704 Views
Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 09:54:53 PM 1703 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:05:57 PM 1734 Views
Re: Two things about Mafalda Hopkirk. - 06/12/2010 10:10:27 PM 1661 Views
And? And? And? *NM* - 01/12/2010 11:43:46 PM 879 Views
Chapters 13-15: The Muggle-Born Registration Commission, The Thief, The Goblin's Revenge *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:01:25 AM 1029 Views
Plotting, writing, theming. - 04/12/2010 11:08:47 AM 1876 Views
Anything else? *NM* - 04/12/2010 11:10:52 AM 911 Views
It may be a stretch, but with all the Nazi references, any WW2 reference is gonna catch my eye. - 06/12/2010 10:09:04 PM 1730 Views
Good catch - 06/12/2010 10:19:21 PM 1606 Views
Chapters 16-18: Godric's Hollow, Bathilda's Secret, The Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore - 06/12/2010 09:57:00 PM 1731 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Bathilda, Dumbledore and others - 06/12/2010 09:57:52 PM 1816 Views
Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:02:13 PM 1851 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:14:26 PM 1919 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:18:15 PM 2013 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:34:15 PM 1709 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:36:18 PM 1730 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:39:58 PM 2002 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:42:27 PM 1589 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:46:58 PM 1645 Views
Re: Dumbledore, Hermione and Harry, Voldemort and Rita Skeeter. - 06/12/2010 10:48:59 PM 1605 Views
I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:47:11 PM 1612 Views
Re: I was interpreting it as sheer sexism, but you might be right. - 07/12/2010 08:55:54 PM 1660 Views
True, but still. *NM* - 07/12/2010 10:02:00 PM 852 Views
Lights! Camera! Action! - 06/12/2010 09:59:52 PM 1712 Views
Hallows and Fidelius Charm. - 06/12/2010 10:03:33 PM 1847 Views
That could be it... or some snake senses, vibrations and all? - 07/12/2010 10:03:16 PM 1654 Views
But wait! There's more! - 06/12/2010 10:00:34 PM 1672 Views
As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:04:11 PM 1360 Views
Re: As nutty as squirrel poo. - 06/12/2010 10:32:04 PM 1693 Views
Oh, hadn't realized that yet either... nice one. *NM* - 07/12/2010 08:54:18 PM 884 Views
Chapters 19-21: The Silver Doe, Xenophilius Lovegood, The Tale of the Three Brothers - 08/12/2010 08:47:04 PM 1753 Views
Characters: Harry, Hermione, Ron, Lovegood ... and not many more. *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:49:28 PM 932 Views
Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 12:01:57 AM 1837 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 03:04:11 PM 1879 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 08:03:05 PM 1738 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 09/12/2010 11:48:08 PM 1951 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 08:44:01 PM 1790 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:00:44 PM 1719 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:16:48 PM 1701 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 10/12/2010 09:19:38 PM 1721 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 19/12/2010 06:58:04 PM 1662 Views
Re: Snape, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Xenophilius, Luna and Dumbledore. - 20/12/2010 09:36:17 AM 1690 Views
What was that again about Hermione not being so good at thinking on her feet? - 09/12/2010 07:52:23 PM 1745 Views
Very, very true. *NM* - 09/12/2010 11:54:06 PM 858 Views
Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 08/12/2010 08:50:53 PM 1823 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 12:04:37 AM 1722 Views
Re: Action, plot, writing, theme: the Deathly Hallows explained at last. - 09/12/2010 03:25:53 PM 1705 Views
I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 06:52:29 PM 1677 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 09/12/2010 11:49:38 PM 1665 Views
Re: I don't think it works that way. They aren't "used up". - 10/12/2010 04:18:25 AM 1855 Views
up up down down left right left right b a select start. look at me I have 99 horcruxes! - 10/12/2010 04:19:56 AM 1417 Views
It is, but the general idea was clear. *NM* - 10/12/2010 08:45:55 PM 848 Views
They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 06:56:46 PM 1610 Views
Re: They're not so annoying yet, now. - 09/12/2010 11:52:02 PM 1811 Views
Anything else you'd like to say? *NM* - 08/12/2010 08:51:31 PM 860 Views
Chapters 22-24: The Deathly Hallows, Malfoy Manor, The Wandmaker. - 10/12/2010 09:11:32 PM 1612 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Malfoys, Dobby, a number of others. *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:12:30 PM 907 Views
Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 10/12/2010 11:23:09 PM 1919 Views
Re: Hermione, Harry, Lupin, Greyback, Draco, Lucius, Bellatrix, Dobby, Dumbledore - 13/12/2010 08:47:27 PM 1737 Views
On a side note about wands - 14/12/2010 06:05:13 PM 1772 Views
Yes, I've caught myself immaturely sniggering on occasion, too. - 14/12/2010 08:59:26 PM 1794 Views
Harry: - 19/12/2010 11:14:51 PM 1656 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 09:42:31 AM 1716 Views
Re: Harry: - 20/12/2010 12:54:14 PM 1766 Views
Other comments or discoveries? *NM* - 10/12/2010 09:14:38 PM 871 Views
Chapters 25-27: Shell Cottage, Gringotts, The Final Hiding Place - 13/12/2010 10:03:15 PM 1654 Views
Plot, action, etc. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:02 PM 855 Views
red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 14/12/2010 05:17:11 PM 1573 Views
The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:13:50 PM 1808 Views
Re: The Gringotts book one reference fits into the pattern. - 14/12/2010 10:27:35 PM 1844 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 03:37:36 PM 2021 Views
Re: red herring, fidelius charm information and full circle. - 20/12/2010 07:37:07 PM 1756 Views
Other things. *NM* - 13/12/2010 10:04:23 PM 768 Views
Film stuff - 14/12/2010 05:17:18 PM 1666 Views
Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:05:01 PM 1653 Views
Re: Excellent point. - 14/12/2010 10:09:53 PM 1667 Views
Are we talking about film or book here? - 20/12/2010 12:58:46 AM 1570 Views
Both, ideally. - 20/12/2010 09:43:06 AM 1602 Views
Sometimes Rowling's parallels are far too simplistic and unsophisticated. - 20/12/2010 03:39:50 PM 1672 Views
I had not made the goblin/Jews connection *NM* - 22/12/2010 09:31:59 AM 875 Views
Seconded. - 26/12/2010 08:29:44 PM 1779 Views
Chapters 28-30: The Missing Mirror, The Lost Diadem, The Sacking of Severus Snape *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:20 PM 897 Views
Characters *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:07:31 PM 830 Views
Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 16/12/2010 11:52:46 PM 1934 Views
Various characters. - 20/12/2010 01:10:42 AM 1711 Views
I think Percy's coming to his senses makes sense enough... - 26/12/2010 08:47:10 PM 2027 Views
Re: Aberforth and Dumbledore, Neville, Ginny, Luna, McGonagall, Harry, Percy, Fleur and the twins - 20/12/2010 05:16:13 PM 1784 Views
I seem to recall Dumbledore making a comment... - 26/12/2010 08:34:03 PM 1887 Views
Yes - 26/12/2010 09:18:56 PM 1697 Views
Writing, action, plot, theme, yadda yadda yadda. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:04 PM 852 Views
red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 16/12/2010 11:53:56 PM 1762 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 05:38:46 PM 1735 Views
Re: red herrings, solutions, evil Hogwarts and the forces of good - 20/12/2010 11:06:01 PM 1921 Views
Other things. *NM* - 16/12/2010 01:08:25 PM 874 Views
Filch and a password. - 16/12/2010 11:51:24 PM 1715 Views
Re: Filch and a password. - 20/12/2010 05:41:02 PM 1680 Views
Chapters 31-33: The Battle for Hogwarts, The Elder Wand, The Prince's Tale - 19/12/2010 07:56:39 PM 1733 Views
Characters: far too many to mention. - 19/12/2010 07:58:41 PM 1611 Views
Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 09:30:54 AM 1950 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 07:02:05 PM 1799 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 20/12/2010 11:24:46 PM 1721 Views
Re: Too many to mention, indeed. - 26/12/2010 09:46:25 PM 2100 Views
The action, and plot advancement and completion. - 19/12/2010 08:00:09 PM 1753 Views
memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 09:32:27 AM 1508 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 07:17:18 PM 1827 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 20/12/2010 11:17:57 PM 1706 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 01/01/2011 10:39:27 PM 1698 Views
Re: memories, cinematic moments and parallels. - 02/01/2011 10:29:38 AM 1840 Views
Other matters. *NM* - 19/12/2010 08:00:39 PM 781 Views
More film stuff. - 20/12/2010 09:33:23 AM 1611 Views
Chapters 34-36: The Forest Again, King's Cross, The Flaw in the Plan - 20/12/2010 07:31:27 PM 1609 Views
Characters: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Ron, Hermione, et al. - 20/12/2010 07:32:15 PM 1639 Views
Harry, Dumbledore, Neville, the Malfoys, Molly and Voldemort - 20/12/2010 11:28:19 PM 1764 Views
The Malfoys and Molly - 01/01/2011 10:55:28 PM 1854 Views
Re: The Malfoys and Molly - 02/01/2011 10:35:47 AM 1856 Views
Tying up the plot. - 20/12/2010 07:33:00 PM 1620 Views
Narnia, blood, revenge of the downtrodden, sacrifice, plans and souls - 20/12/2010 11:29:44 PM 1758 Views
Anything else? - 20/12/2010 07:33:53 PM 1676 Views
Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 07:35:06 PM 1751 Views
Re: Epilogue: the future. - 20/12/2010 11:31:28 PM 2022 Views
I'm the other way around - I mind it less this time. - 26/12/2010 09:52:21 PM 1768 Views

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