If you don't mind a few grammatical corrections of your swearing...
Legolas Send a noteboard - 20/11/2010 05:42:57 PM
The way you've written it you kind of have two reflexive pronouns - the "vas-tu" and then the s' (which should be more specific anyway, te instead of se). And then enculer should be an infinitive, not a past participle. Hence, "Vas te faire enculer" (and since the "te" is a reflexive pronoun and not a subject, it can never be "tu" ). The hyphen is not required there, for the same reason, but I'm not sure if writing it is actually wrong.
"Only" eighty dollars? That had better be Flaubert's entire oeuvre, for that price... of course if you're gonna order from Amazon France to the US, it's true a single massively expensive order would ultimately cost less than buying them one at a time.
Your review of the translation and its myriad pitfalls led me to the previous message, which was a lamentation of my inability to find Madame Bovary in hardcover for, as I said, "less than $100", which led to a further internet search, which led to the discovery of a Pleiade edition for only $80, which led to a purchase. I had vowed to not buy more books for some time. Now I find myself casting around and wondering how often to buy the damn editions in order to supplement my library with suitable editions of Camus, Sartre, Stendhal and Hugo.
"Only" eighty dollars? That had better be Flaubert's entire oeuvre, for that price... of course if you're gonna order from Amazon France to the US, it's true a single massively expensive order would ultimately cost less than buying them one at a time.
This message last edited by Legolas on 20/11/2010 at 05:43:16 PM
Julian Barnes on translation
18/11/2010 05:49:37 PM
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That's a very interesting article. Though it does sound like he'd never be happy.
18/11/2010 08:06:09 PM
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That was a long article.
19/11/2010 07:05:12 PM
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Re: That was a long article.
19/11/2010 09:59:24 PM
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Yeah, I think English translations on average are better than those in smaller languages.
19/11/2010 10:16:44 PM
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On balance, I'm glad I read the Steegmuller translation when I read the novel.
20/11/2010 05:14:42 PM
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Vas-tu faire s’enculée, Camille!
20/11/2010 05:26:08 PM
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If you don't mind a few grammatical corrections of your swearing...
20/11/2010 05:42:57 PM
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It was a quick and dirty rendering
20/11/2010 05:53:13 PM
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And I didn't order from France. It's a US-based company that I bought it from. *NM*
20/11/2010 05:54:55 PM
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I love Pleiade editions
21/11/2010 12:14:14 AM
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How tall are they, out of curiosity?
21/11/2010 12:50:57 AM
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Not tall
21/11/2010 09:59:55 AM
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I got my books today.
23/11/2010 05:38:20 AM
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Re: I got my books today.
23/11/2010 10:33:10 AM
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Regardless, if Pleiade is the best France has to offer, their book industry is awful.
23/11/2010 07:17:13 PM
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Re: Oh Authorial intent.
21/11/2010 02:07:27 AM
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Like hell it's about authorial intent.
21/11/2010 05:40:22 AM
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Re: I didn't even read it, I guessed based on the author's initials.
21/11/2010 01:37:40 PM
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So I take it you missed the whole part about Nabokov's translation of Eugene Onegin.
21/11/2010 03:28:14 PM
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Re: Yes, I missed all of that. Such a conclusion clearly follows from my previous response. *NM*
21/11/2010 03:57:16 PM
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Actually it does. Your responses are just cheap tricks, not discussions. *NM*
21/11/2010 04:44:21 PM
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Re: Cheap tricks?
21/11/2010 10:45:39 PM
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Barnes' article has little to do with authorial intent
21/11/2010 11:37:25 PM
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I think it is more about the "authentic experience" than about intent.
21/11/2010 10:01:57 AM
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