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Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion. Legolas Send a noteboard - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM
Do you think that poetry deserves a wider readership?

Well, several others here have made a good point... there's no point in people who aren't interested reading it. But no doubt many people who think they aren't interested just haven't found the right poems yet, so yes, I suppose I do think it deserves a wider readership.
Do bookstores with no designated poetry section but entire shelves full of Ayn Rand and Bibles make you angry?

I can't claim I generally devote too much attention to a bookstore's poetry section... that is, I might check it out and even buy volumes, but it's not the first thing I go looking for, and I wouldn't be too upset if it was missing. I don't generally check out poetry the way I would other books, randomly looking at books that look interesting or authors that sound familiar. With poetry, I just see if by any chance the store has a poet that I like for a decent price.

Why would a bookstore have entire shelves full of Bibles, though? Even in the US (perhaps even especially in the US, where everyone already has one anyway), surely that can't be necessary.
If you had a beautiful little bookstore and could stock it with whatever you wanted, wouldn't you have a section devoted to poetry?

I would. Multilingual poetry, as others said.
Why is poetry important?

Because it allows for the expression of deep ideas and emotions in a simple, appealing way. And because it's one of the oldest forms of literature. And because it's probably the only genre of literature which one can appreciate to some extent even in languages one doesn't speak (that is, assuming the poem is read to you by someone who does speak said language).
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What are your favorite poems?

Gates of Damascus (Flecker), Rime of the Ancient Mariner (Coleridge), No Second Troy (Yeats), lily has a rose (cummings). And many more not coming to mind or that I don't know the title of, see favourite poets.
Who are your favorite poets?

In roughly chronological order: Sappho, Catullus, Hooft, Vondel, Flecker, Poe, Yeats, van Ostaijen, Achterberg, cummings, 't Hooft (not to be confused with the other Hooft).

There are many more that I'm sure I'd like if I read them, but I have yet to really read countless famous poets (Dante, Petrarca, Donne, Keats, Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Verlaine, the list is long).
How did you discover them?

Most of them in school. Poe, Yeats and cummings were probably more on the internet somehow, by looking up references or coming across their names somehow. Flecker was thanks to the quote from his Gates of Damascus that is referenced in the Agatha Christie novel Postern of Fate.
Why should I read them? I am compiling a christmas list, and need to know.

Well, all the Flemish/Dutch ones on the list you probably won't read anyway, or the Antique ones. As for the ones writing in English, though: the former three are at times perhaps a bit pompous or decadent by modern standards, but they are very good at what they do. Flecker writes most of his poems in rhyme, and still makes it sound like he's picked his rhyming words for their meaning and not for the rhyme. Yeats has some great images and lines that have remained in the collective memory (most notably "Things fall apart; the center cannot hold";). cummings is radically different, with his refusal to use capitals and his use of simple words, but he too does it so phenomenally well.
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I do as well. It's fun pretending to be an asshole, I'll admit. - 09/11/2010 11:17:34 PM 860 Views
Come now, who's pretending? - 09/11/2010 11:22:18 PM 883 Views
That is officially the last one before I start editing and making them NM. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:24:12 PM 410 Views
Word. *NM* *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:29:37 PM 332 Views
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Keep telling yourself that. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:46:34 PM 745 Views
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What about THE Other? *NM* - 10/11/2010 12:16:53 AM 368 Views
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See my original point. *NM* - 09/11/2010 11:15:30 PM 369 Views
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I disagree with your claim that there can be no value in translations. - 09/11/2010 08:51:20 PM 849 Views
Not "no value", but "different value" is what I would argue - 09/11/2010 09:55:54 PM 926 Views
An English translation of The Divine Comedy was pivotal to my conversion to Christianity. - 10/11/2010 11:04:57 AM 786 Views
Dante has a lot to answer for. *NM* - 10/11/2010 08:21:19 PM 367 Views
Ah, but to whom...? - 10/11/2010 09:17:16 PM 829 Views
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Nothing wrong with humorous redundancy! - 09/11/2010 01:10:02 AM 876 Views
Ooh, good survey. I've been thinking for a while we needed more poetry discussion. - 08/11/2010 10:58:24 AM 1020 Views
I think you underestimate the number of translations of the Bible. - 09/11/2010 01:20:30 AM 1006 Views
Did they just translate logos as... life-light? - 09/11/2010 07:14:28 PM 876 Views
Yes. Yes, they did. *NM* - 09/11/2010 09:56:09 PM 337 Views
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My favourite translation of logos is "point of it all". - 10/11/2010 05:12:05 PM 1142 Views
Interersting - 08/11/2010 05:14:41 PM 930 Views
I can count the poems I enjoy on one hand. Two fingers, in fact. - 08/11/2010 06:05:22 PM 919 Views
I think poetry is largely overrated. - 08/11/2010 06:12:59 PM 989 Views
And you are basing this on extensive non-reading of poetry? *NM* - 09/11/2010 08:57:06 PM 311 Views
Basing what, exactly? But the short answer is, no. - 10/11/2010 05:48:28 PM 922 Views
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I like some poetry, but by no means all. - 09/11/2010 12:28:41 AM 1007 Views
Now that you mention it, The Imperfect Enjoyment might rank among my favourite poems. *NM* - 09/11/2010 12:46:56 AM 363 Views
It is excellent - 09/11/2010 08:16:01 PM 1034 Views
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Just remembered my favourite poem - 09/11/2010 10:50:03 PM 962 Views
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I'll answer this unnumbered survey. - 10/11/2010 01:37:50 AM 1011 Views
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I can't believe I forgot to mention Leonard Cohen. *NM* - 12/11/2010 04:33:15 AM 356 Views

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