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Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow Send a noteboard - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM
I don't really mean either. The ideas themselves may not be difficult to grasp OR challenge predominant views, but their presentation in a literary work may be done in such a way that it's not immediately apparent, or that requires reading a hundred pages of seemingly meaningless exposition before their impact can be felt.

I understand you now. Thanks for the clarification. It's more a matter of execution and presentation.

I struggled with Crime and Punishment, honestly. Ultimately good and worth it, but it was tough for me to get through. I've been stalling on reading more, mainly The Brothers Karamazov.

Note that I did NOT put Crime and Punishment on my list of favorites. I think it's perhaps Dostoevsky's least successful "major" work. It's slower, less developed and a bit predictable.


I actually noted that, the first time I tried to reply to you, and it didn't post for some reason. Either way, I think I'll start with The Brothers Karamazov and see if I want to try the others.


Tender is the Night is his last finished novel and very autobiographical. As a result, it's quite sad.


I'll have to add this one to the list too then. I really enjoyed his writing style and I like the added parrallel to his personal life, even if it's a sad one.
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The Classics - general discussion / survey StormCrow - 30/09/2010 03:52:53 PM 1395 Views
My own answers. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 04:38:33 PM 986 Views
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Get a copy with annotations! Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:56:12 PM 908 Views
Re: My own answers. Camilla - 30/09/2010 09:02:08 PM 1006 Views
Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:23:51 PM 1032 Views
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Re: Powdered Soup! StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:07:20 PM 960 Views
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Well, have you seen any of the Austen TV/movie adaptations, then? Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:25:58 PM 973 Views
Oh yes. I even made the mistake of purchasing the new Pride and Prejudice for her. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:10:05 AM 964 Views
They are much, much worse than powder soup. Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:07 PM 879 Views
Well, since they're made of paper... StormCrow - 30/09/2010 10:09:41 PM 948 Views
Re: My own answers. BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:35:36 PM 982 Views
Cliff's notes Seriana Sedai - 05/10/2010 08:05:56 PM 1031 Views
Re: Cliff's notes StormCrow - 05/10/2010 09:21:06 PM 1253 Views
Re: Cliff's notes Seriana Sedai - 06/10/2010 01:40:38 AM 1041 Views
It's cool. StormCrow - 06/10/2010 04:42:13 PM 1089 Views
A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 05:33:35 PM 962 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 06:46:02 PM 986 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Tom - 30/09/2010 10:57:23 PM 921 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:39:16 PM 809 Views
Camilla, that's just because you're an atheist. Tom - 01/10/2010 09:37:34 PM 873 Views
Yes. Camilla - 01/10/2010 09:51:32 PM 857 Views
Re: A classic is really any book with enduring value. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:20:51 AM 1039 Views
I really need to read Kundera. I've heard nothing but praise for Unbearable Lightness. *NM* Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:46:18 PM 539 Views
I could post you over a copy to borrow. Rebekah - 30/09/2010 08:58:08 PM 811 Views
That is very kind, but I have far too much to do to read non-school books, unfortunately. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:53:23 PM 894 Views
It is good. *NM* Camilla - 30/09/2010 09:34:47 PM 405 Views
Haven't read any other Kundera, but yes, that one is very enjoyable. *NM* Legolas - 30/09/2010 09:50:30 PM 539 Views
I found his other books to be pale copies of The Unbearable Lightness of Being. *NM* Tom - 30/09/2010 10:51:55 PM 578 Views
totally problematic classics temeraire - 30/09/2010 08:07:22 PM 1012 Views
Re: totally problematic classics StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:26:46 PM 933 Views
I study them, apparently. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 08:44:40 PM 1054 Views
I wish I could do that. StormCrow - 30/09/2010 09:49:57 PM 965 Views
Less fun than you'd think. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:52:10 PM 841 Views
More admiration of your discipline than assuming you were having fun with it. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 12:31:06 AM 1003 Views
Re: The Classics - general discussion / survey .. edited. Camilla - 30/09/2010 08:58:14 PM 1020 Views
I knew you would have a rather lengthy list. I was worried until the edit came through. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:26:34 AM 1038 Views
Good survey. Legolas - 30/09/2010 10:23:18 PM 1030 Views
Agreed. edited Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:37:48 PM 995 Views
But but but Milton is beautiful Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:46:06 PM 931 Views
Sometimes. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:47:28 PM 950 Views
Maybe I was unclear. Ghavrel - 30/09/2010 10:55:22 PM 963 Views
Re: Maybe I was unclear. Camilla - 30/09/2010 10:57:41 PM 842 Views
I'm glad you approve on the whole. Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:12:00 PM 965 Views
I generally do. Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:19:05 PM 962 Views
Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:40:24 PM 1127 Views
Re: Excellent. Might as well include a Hooft poem anyway, in case anyone's interested... Camilla - 30/09/2010 11:43:20 PM 960 Views
Dickens StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:42:42 PM 939 Views
Re: I generally do. BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:54:11 PM 1017 Views
Oh, and link to the Flecker poem: Legolas - 30/09/2010 11:42:30 PM 859 Views
Re: Good survey. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:52:27 AM 1112 Views
My classics nossy - 30/09/2010 10:54:56 PM 924 Views
Re: My classics StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:01:24 AM 1010 Views
Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 30/09/2010 11:30:41 PM 1062 Views
Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:18:58 AM 908 Views
Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 01/10/2010 05:20:10 AM 1001 Views
Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee StormCrow - 01/10/2010 02:05:35 PM 946 Views
Re: Ah Cliff, I bow to thee BlackAdder - 02/10/2010 04:07:10 AM 962 Views
Ha, we weren't that far off after all. StormCrow - 04/10/2010 08:11:39 PM 896 Views
I will not list 300+ books here, I promise Larry - 01/10/2010 12:36:17 AM 1051 Views
O'Connor is wonderful. But I am not sure many can appreciate her. Ghavrel - 01/10/2010 02:50:54 AM 753 Views
I agree, thus the "confound" part in there Larry - 01/10/2010 02:53:26 AM 840 Views
I figured as much. Ghavrel - 01/10/2010 03:08:26 AM 869 Views
I expected you to have quite a few as well. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 03:25:06 AM 947 Views
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Criminy, I thought I was done with essay questions years ago. Mndrew - 01/10/2010 01:39:56 AM 969 Views
Glad to bring back the school days. StormCrow - 01/10/2010 01:49:48 PM 1008 Views
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the bf and I are going to do a "Paradise Lost" book club... ajah - 02/10/2010 08:29:38 AM 1094 Views
Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. Rebekah - 02/10/2010 11:40:48 AM 1006 Views
Re: Mm, Doré's engravings are gorgeous. ajah - 02/10/2010 09:42:37 PM 973 Views
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