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Percy's attachment to authority StormCrow Send a noteboard - 17/08/2010 03:06:12 PM

It's noteworthy that Percy's low opinion of Bagman will prove to be justified, by and large, unlike of course his hero-worship of Mr Crouch.

And Mr Crouch's worry and interest for Bertha's disparition becomes far more interesting now - of course he's worried, that woman can bring him down if his memory spell is ever broken.


This really is the start of Percy's path away from his family, which is one of the saddest paths in the books for me (from the Weasleys' perspective at least). Honestly, I think the outcome with Crouch, in this book, drives home the wedge between him and the rest of the Weasley's in the following installments.

What starts out as annoying attachment to authority, turns to comments on his father's lack of ambition. Fudge easily exploits this to turn Percy against his own parents after he's become so attached to Crouch and Crouch's reputation. After all, Percy's been living and breathing the Ministry propaganda throughout this whole experience.

For this Percy is one of the most hatable characters through the latter half of the series (in my mind at least). Ultimately, redeemed, but after great costs to his family.
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Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 949 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 1844 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2070 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 1882 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Legolas - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 1832 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. Camilla - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 1864 Views
Yes. Elaine - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 1817 Views
Everything else. *NM* Legolas - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 951 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time Camilla - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 1720 Views
More owl comments. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 1827 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 1770 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 990 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 1739 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 1732 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 1798 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 1837 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 1924 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 952 Views
Stuff happens. Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 1779 Views
So it does. Legolas - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 1897 Views
Re: So it does. Camilla - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 1820 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 1915 Views
Re: Stuff happens. Camilla - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 1819 Views
Riddle Family. Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 1796 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... Legolas - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 1908 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... Cockatiel of Doom - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 1910 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* Legolas - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 940 Views
Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 1956 Views
Re: Naturally Legolas - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 1648 Views
Re: Naturally Camilla - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 2108 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 933 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 955 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 1864 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 1792 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 2131 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 931 Views
Revelations and then some Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 1818 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Dark Knight - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 2176 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes Camilla - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2043 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 1793 Views
Re: Revelations and then some Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 1921 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 971 Views
Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 1933 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Legolas - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 2130 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. Camilla - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 1827 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 1843 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 1857 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 1928 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 1872 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 1963 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. Rebekah - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 1981 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? StormCrow - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 1818 Views
Well. Yes. Rebekah - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 1871 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! aria - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 1853 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* StormCrow - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 953 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Legolas - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 2089 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? Camilla - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 2067 Views
School started and that threw me off. aria - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 1894 Views
Mine was school as well. Seriana Sedai - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 1911 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. Cockatiel of Doom - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 1904 Views
That would be good Camilla - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 1806 Views
I like that idea. Rebekah - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 1854 Views
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