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Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) Legolas Send a noteboard - 16/08/2010 12:16:16 PM
True. It is odd. Since the pattern, focusing through Harry, is so ingrained in the series, and in the whole structure of the series: we know what Harry knows, which is why we are so often wrong in our assumptions (well, I am, anyway). Deviating from that pattern is a strange choice to make.

It's necessary to build up tension and show some things that would otherwise require contrived methods to show, I guess. If you just leave this chapter out of book four, and explain it all at the end, you'd have to be far more limited with the explanation and leave out some of the good things in this chapter: the social commentary, the Peter characterization, and the like. And you wouldn't have that nagging voice in your head telling you there's more to fear than just the Tri-Wizard Tournament tests. It's similar in the other cases. I think these chapters improve the books they're in and the series as a whole, honestly.
Ah, yes. Again, this isn't really terribly strong plotting. A sequence is planned, then disturbed, then returned to status quo so that the plan can go ahead. It is a little disappointing after the strong plotting of the third book. This whole book feels rather more unfocused (as I remember it) than the third. It is more a series of plot cupons than a coherent plot -- even though there is a plot in the background of course.

I don't know, it works great in terms of misleading the reader. We obviously think that the events at the World Cup will prove hugely significant once we figure out what happened - if a reader is particularly attentive and trying to figure out what Voldemort's up to, he must assume the plan has changed since the first chapter. In the meantime, ultimately far more important events like the Moody garbage bins incident are slipped in in far more subtle ways. But then in the end the World Cup proves important only for Hermione's house elves thing, and for the Bagman thing.

This book simply has more balls to juggle than PoA, so to speak, and Rowling does so quite competently, I think, throwing red herrings around along with real hints, and setting up or further developing tons of characters and plotlines for later books while keeping this book strong in its own right. Okay, Voldemort's original evil plan is of a remarkable simplicity, but so what? The book has enough complexity with everything else that it doesn't really matter.
Yes, I think we are told towards the end of the book that the memory charm was to cover Crouch (but it could be my mind playing tricks).

Indeed.
Well, it is not too large a leap of faith ;)

I guess not, but I'm having fun in this reread with trying to put myself in the head of characters for whom Rowling does not spell everything out in detail - Snape last time, Peter now. And for Peter, it still has to grate.
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The Great Harry Potter Re-read: Book Four Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - 16/08/2010 09:28:48 AM 4027 Views
Chapters 1-3: A different beginning - 16/08/2010 09:30:26 AM 1754 Views
Early characters - 16/08/2010 09:32:12 AM 1816 Views
Wormtail and Dudley - 16/08/2010 10:58:35 AM 1913 Views
Re: Wormtail and Dudley - 16/08/2010 11:11:11 AM 1821 Views
Something you just said there.... - 16/08/2010 06:03:53 PM 1885 Views
Re: Early characters - 16/08/2010 11:02:23 AM 2117 Views
Re. Pigwidgeon. - 16/08/2010 02:39:21 PM 1985 Views
Re: Re. Pigwidgeon. - 16/08/2010 03:27:39 PM 1891 Views
Re: Early characters - 17/08/2010 01:23:59 AM 1992 Views
I like your explaination of why Voldemort calls Peter Wormtail - 17/08/2010 07:49:22 PM 1893 Views
Early plotting. - 16/08/2010 09:32:52 AM 1823 Views
That first chapter works very well, I think. - 16/08/2010 10:20:48 AM 1862 Views
Re: That first chapter works very well, I think. - 16/08/2010 11:19:10 AM 1923 Views
Re: That first chapter works very well, I think. - 17/08/2010 12:49:42 AM 1956 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 16/08/2010 11:02:09 AM 1932 Views
It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 11:38:14 AM 1933 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 11:47:16 AM 1936 Views
Re: It's the things behind the scenes setting up the big plan (spoilers for this and later books) - 16/08/2010 12:16:16 PM 2156 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 17/08/2010 01:15:43 AM 1807 Views
No, it does. - 17/08/2010 01:24:16 AM 1799 Views
Re: No, it does. - 17/08/2010 01:45:00 AM 1889 Views
Re: Early plotting. - 17/08/2010 11:22:57 AM 1829 Views
Any other comments/observations - 16/08/2010 09:33:34 AM 1741 Views
Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 10:37:10 AM 2034 Views
Re: Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 11:30:08 AM 1867 Views
Re: Mob mentality and British euroscepticism. - 16/08/2010 11:45:43 AM 1959 Views
Chapters 4-6 - The Weasleys - 16/08/2010 09:33:57 AM 1807 Views
Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 08:22:33 AM 1845 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 11:07:43 AM 1902 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 12:18:30 PM 1873 Views
Re: Characters - a few new ones - 17/08/2010 12:24:41 PM 1848 Views
It's all in how you say it. - 17/08/2010 03:18:48 PM 1823 Views
Amos annoyed me too. - 18/08/2010 08:29:56 PM 1805 Views
And arguably another one of those fun names with a hidden meaning... - 17/08/2010 07:47:43 PM 1808 Views
Plotting - anything of note? - 17/08/2010 08:23:53 AM 2012 Views
Re: Plotting - anything of note? - 17/08/2010 11:10:22 AM 1883 Views
The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying... - 17/08/2010 12:29:50 PM 1926 Views
Re: The Lovegoods? This is why reading in translation can be annoying... - 17/08/2010 12:38:09 PM 1811 Views
I thought that might be it. Yeah, different names in the Dutch translation then. *NM* - 17/08/2010 12:40:45 PM 967 Views
That must be annoying - 17/08/2010 12:42:12 PM 1826 Views
It is, but fortunately it's rare. - 17/08/2010 12:49:25 PM 1715 Views
Percy's attachment to authority - 17/08/2010 03:06:12 PM 1771 Views
Any other comments/observations. - 17/08/2010 08:24:20 AM 1881 Views
Cars - 17/08/2010 11:11:18 AM 2044 Views
Heh. - 18/08/2010 12:40:48 AM 1809 Views
Evidently Quidditch is inspired by rugby here. - 17/08/2010 12:40:10 PM 1941 Views
Re: Evidently Quidditch is inspired by rugby here. - 17/08/2010 12:43:15 PM 2011 Views
A mistake? - 18/08/2010 12:38:38 AM 2042 Views
Re: A mistake? - 18/08/2010 02:39:56 AM 1734 Views
Re: A mistake? - 18/08/2010 09:45:17 AM 1849 Views
Chapters 7-9 - The Quidditch World Cup and Death Eaters - 16/08/2010 09:34:26 AM 1735 Views
Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people. - 18/08/2010 12:44:16 AM 1837 Views
Mr Weasley is a darling. - 18/08/2010 12:47:13 AM 1777 Views
Re: Mr Weasley is a darling. - 18/08/2010 09:46:53 AM 1793 Views
Crouch - 18/08/2010 02:00:34 AM 2302 Views
Re: Characters: Ministers, Mothers, other important people. - 18/08/2010 09:43:42 AM 1875 Views
Plotting - 18/08/2010 12:44:48 AM 1837 Views
Is it just me, - 18/08/2010 12:51:08 AM 1753 Views
Re: Is it just me, - 18/08/2010 09:48:06 AM 1809 Views
Re: Plotting - 18/08/2010 09:41:56 AM 1890 Views
A few more... - 18/08/2010 02:00:17 PM 2005 Views
Re: A few more... - 18/08/2010 02:13:25 PM 1818 Views
Other stuff. - 18/08/2010 12:45:13 AM 1796 Views
Krum Catching the Snitch - 18/08/2010 02:28:58 AM 1904 Views
Huh, I never thought of that - 18/08/2010 09:50:35 AM 1790 Views
It makes a certain amount of sense, I think... - 18/08/2010 01:23:46 PM 1806 Views
Re: It makes a certain amount of sense, I think... - 19/08/2010 02:43:16 AM 1926 Views
A lot of pent-up anger there, I sense *NM* - 19/08/2010 09:24:51 AM 1744 Views
Nice list, yeah. - 19/08/2010 10:51:07 AM 1859 Views
Clothes and other schools - 18/08/2010 09:44:02 AM 1798 Views
There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 01:37:14 PM 1833 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 01:45:58 PM 1772 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 02:08:28 PM 1844 Views
Re: There's a first mention of Beauxbatons in chapter nine. - 18/08/2010 02:21:13 PM 1796 Views
Chapters 10-12: Back to Hogwarts and the Tri-Wizard Tournament. *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:34:48 AM 951 Views
Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. *NM* - 19/08/2010 11:21:29 AM 988 Views
Skeeter, Moody and more Weasleys. - 19/08/2010 04:03:20 PM 1856 Views
Re: Skeeter, Moody and more Weasleys. - 19/08/2010 05:46:27 PM 1712 Views
Re: Characters: introducing Rita Skeeter and Alastor "Mad-Eye" Moody. - 19/08/2010 05:23:11 PM 1827 Views
Plotting and writing. - 19/08/2010 11:22:42 AM 1655 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 19/08/2010 05:23:37 PM 1755 Views
Any other comments, observations or revelations? *NM* - 19/08/2010 11:23:48 AM 976 Views
There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for. - 19/08/2010 04:23:16 PM 1937 Views
Re: There was that Durmstrang reference I was waiting for. - 19/08/2010 05:41:04 PM 1896 Views
Vampire. Only meet one I think, in a later book. - 23/08/2010 02:51:51 PM 1866 Views
Oh yes! - 23/08/2010 02:58:03 PM 1758 Views
So. Sport and numbers. - 19/08/2010 06:35:29 PM 1765 Views
Re: So. Sport and numbers. - 19/08/2010 06:39:12 PM 1832 Views
It doesn't matter, no. - 19/08/2010 11:33:04 PM 1900 Views
Re: Any other comments, observations or revelations? - 19/08/2010 05:24:05 PM 2006 Views
Chapters 13-15: First lessons, and the arrival of the foreign guests *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:09 AM 928 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 20/08/2010 11:51:43 AM 964 Views
Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 01:04:01 PM 1803 Views
Re: Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 01:55:29 PM 1951 Views
Re: Plotplotplot (plot makes a funny noise if you say it like that). - 20/08/2010 02:04:07 PM 2047 Views
I just realised - 20/08/2010 11:51:20 PM 1766 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* - 20/08/2010 11:52:05 AM 854 Views
Yes. Five things, actually. Magic, Snape, idiocy, apparating while presumed guilty aaand evil films. - 20/08/2010 01:05:06 PM 1782 Views
Re: Yes. Five things, actually. - 20/08/2010 01:27:27 PM 1818 Views
Re: Yes. Five things, actually. - 20/08/2010 01:35:12 PM 1756 Views
Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it. - 20/08/2010 01:46:09 PM 1836 Views
Re: Trelawney, or how one can be a Seer and not even know it. - 20/08/2010 01:56:53 PM 1991 Views
Oh, and one more thing... - 20/08/2010 01:57:20 PM 1801 Views
Re: Oh, and one more thing... - 20/08/2010 02:08:50 PM 1790 Views
Unforgiveable Curses and Owls - 05/09/2010 05:09:26 AM 1886 Views
Chapters 16-18: The Tri-Wizard Tournament begins *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:31 AM 987 Views
Characters: The Champions, Hagrid, Karkarov, and of course Rita Skeeter in person *NM* - 21/08/2010 01:10:53 PM 974 Views
Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 01:50:12 PM 1828 Views
Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 04:24:02 PM 1820 Views
Re: Karkaroff, Moody, Fleur, Krum, Ron, Hermione, Snape and Rita - 21/08/2010 04:40:39 PM 1784 Views
The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. - 23/08/2010 09:20:18 PM 1775 Views
Re: The teeth comment was by far the best Snape one liner in the series. - 23/08/2010 09:22:26 PM 1956 Views
Definitely true - 23/08/2010 10:02:46 PM 2026 Views
Re: Definitely true - 24/08/2010 06:20:53 PM 2084 Views
Well, perhaps dues ex machina is a bit too much. - 25/08/2010 01:06:27 AM 2044 Views
Re: Well, perhaps dues ex machina is a bit too much. - 25/08/2010 06:01:32 AM 1778 Views
Plotting and writing. - 21/08/2010 01:12:24 PM 2093 Views
plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 01:39:10 PM 1830 Views
Re: plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 04:30:20 PM 2003 Views
Re: plotting both for the book alone and the series as a whole - 21/08/2010 04:35:22 PM 2072 Views
Other comments, small details you noticed,...? *NM* - 21/08/2010 01:12:53 PM 966 Views
House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 01:35:38 PM 2104 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 04:55:10 PM 1933 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 21/08/2010 04:59:55 PM 2042 Views
I don't know what you're talking about. - 21/08/2010 05:05:28 PM 1911 Views
Re: I don't know what you're talking about. - 21/08/2010 05:16:18 PM 1968 Views
Re: House-elves, Hufflepuff and minds in gutter. - 05/09/2010 05:11:11 AM 1880 Views
I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:02:47 PM 2000 Views
Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:08:40 PM 2039 Views
I associate blancmange more with Britain than with anywhere else... - 21/08/2010 05:26:17 PM 1881 Views
Re: I love the bouillabaisse thing. - 21/08/2010 05:12:54 PM 1749 Views
Hermione really comes into her own in this book. - 27/08/2010 11:30:38 PM 1659 Views
Indeed - 27/08/2010 11:46:44 PM 2018 Views
Chapters 19-21: The first task and House-Elves at Hogwarts *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:35:53 AM 966 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Moody, Dobby and Winky,... - 23/08/2010 10:40:21 AM 1787 Views
The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:07:50 AM 1802 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:35:56 AM 1894 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:44:08 AM 2083 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 11:54:31 AM 1753 Views
Re: The trio, Neville and the House-elves. - 23/08/2010 12:07:24 PM 2031 Views
Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 11:19:21 AM 1727 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 11:56:37 AM 1878 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 01:58:39 PM 1742 Views
Re: Ron and Harry, Winky, various other thoughts. - 23/08/2010 02:08:53 PM 1777 Views
Plotting and writing: the first task and other events *NM* - 23/08/2010 10:41:20 AM 979 Views
Good plotting in this section - 23/08/2010 11:08:50 AM 1892 Views
Yeah, definitely. - 23/08/2010 11:46:46 AM 1885 Views
Re: Yeah, definitely. - 23/08/2010 12:04:55 PM 1784 Views
Anything else you want to comment on? *NM* - 23/08/2010 10:41:39 AM 939 Views
Harry and Ron's fight is properly annoying. - 08/09/2010 04:58:59 PM 2514 Views
Chapters 22-24: The - rather eventful - Yule Ball *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:36:30 AM 858 Views
Characters: The Trio, Champions and their dates, Karkarov, Hagrid and Olympe,... - 24/08/2010 11:09:33 AM 1988 Views
Ron and Hermione, mainly. - 24/08/2010 11:47:49 AM 2070 Views
Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 01:15:37 PM 1779 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 03:53:20 PM 1778 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 05:00:59 PM 1881 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 24/08/2010 05:19:34 PM 1964 Views
Re: Makes sense. - 25/08/2010 12:15:12 AM 1955 Views
Fred and George. - 24/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1893 Views
Re: Fred and George. - 24/08/2010 04:17:10 PM 1985 Views
Plotting and writing: a bit of a lull in the tension, perhaps, but there's still a lot going on. *NM* - 24/08/2010 11:11:49 AM 1027 Views
Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 11:48:30 AM 1978 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 02:18:04 PM 1798 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 04:13:57 PM 1838 Views
Re: Yule Ball, preparation and aftermath - 24/08/2010 04:33:14 PM 1870 Views
Whatever else you want to say about these three chapters. *NM* - 24/08/2010 11:12:33 AM 1029 Views
Ron's lasso comment is brilliant. Absolute genius. - 24/08/2010 02:23:37 PM 1848 Views
Lasso comment? - 24/08/2010 04:20:35 PM 1853 Views
When discussing methods to separate girls from their gang. - 24/08/2010 04:27:47 PM 1851 Views
Ah. Hehe. Yes. - 24/08/2010 04:30:34 PM 1926 Views
It's not really a humourous pun, just a nice find by the translator. - 24/08/2010 04:45:34 PM 2001 Views
Holy crap. - 25/08/2010 02:44:57 PM 1794 Views
Yeah, I don't know if the Google pictures are entirely representative... - 25/08/2010 03:06:25 PM 1926 Views
Don't care, I choose to believe - 25/08/2010 03:21:37 PM 1780 Views
You may be disappointed when trying to buy one, then. - 25/08/2010 04:23:57 PM 2019 Views
Chapters 25-27: The second task and Padfoot's return - 16/08/2010 09:36:55 AM 1825 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Fleur, Sirius,... *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:18:49 AM 918 Views
Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 25/08/2010 05:31:18 PM 1757 Views
Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 26/08/2010 10:44:34 AM 1958 Views
Re: Snape, Percy, Hermione, Ron, Mrs Weasley and Sirius. - 26/08/2010 10:51:21 AM 1783 Views
Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. - 26/08/2010 10:54:11 AM 1689 Views
Re: Fleur shows that, when push comes to shove, she has her priorities straight. - 26/08/2010 11:21:59 AM 1818 Views
Makes more sense now. - 28/08/2010 05:00:26 AM 1761 Views
Re: Makes more sense now. - 28/08/2010 09:28:07 AM 1821 Views
Plotting and writing: clues, red herrings and recapitulation *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:19:47 AM 967 Views
Merpeople and the second task. - 25/08/2010 11:34:40 AM 1874 Views
And something else I never understood about the second task - 25/08/2010 02:32:51 PM 1878 Views
That's a good point, yeah... - 25/08/2010 03:07:30 PM 1768 Views
Re: That's a good point, yeah... - 25/08/2010 05:39:48 PM 1761 Views
Re: Merpeople and the second task. - 25/08/2010 05:38:55 PM 1757 Views
Lots of stuff -- I may have to change my opinion of Rowling's plotting in this book. - 25/08/2010 05:23:30 PM 1819 Views
Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 05:27:17 AM 1821 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 10:09:48 AM 2018 Views
Re: Marauder's Map. - 05/09/2010 04:44:16 PM 1842 Views
Other comments. *NM* - 25/08/2010 11:20:11 AM 945 Views
Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:24:26 PM 1886 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:36:29 PM 1851 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 25/08/2010 05:42:20 PM 1963 Views
Need a cough drop dear? - 25/08/2010 05:53:26 PM 1840 Views
Re: Need a cough drop dear? - 25/08/2010 05:55:41 PM 1829 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 26/08/2010 11:13:07 AM 1930 Views
Re: Two completely unrelated things. - 26/08/2010 11:18:42 AM 1798 Views
Second task. - 05/09/2010 05:30:01 AM 1861 Views
Chapters 28-30: Moving towards the climax *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:37:22 AM 895 Views
Characters: The Trio, Krum, Karkarov, the Crouch family,... *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:15:59 PM 979 Views
Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 02:48:04 PM 1835 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 03:22:14 PM 1833 Views
Re: Madame Maxime, Crouch, Snape, Twins, Fudge and Neville - 26/08/2010 03:45:58 PM 1841 Views
Also - 26/08/2010 10:45:57 PM 1889 Views
Plotting and writing: increasing signs of danger, and revelations about the past. *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:16:50 PM 949 Views
Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 02:50:29 PM 1843 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 03:38:53 PM 2070 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 03:51:32 PM 1881 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 04:05:12 PM 1830 Views
Re: Some good plotting here, and some recurring issues. - 26/08/2010 04:09:12 PM 1864 Views
Yes. - 27/08/2010 02:02:22 PM 1817 Views
Everything else. *NM* - 26/08/2010 12:17:07 PM 951 Views
My favourite category. Two things this time - 26/08/2010 02:51:16 PM 1719 Views
More owl comments. - 05/09/2010 05:35:49 AM 1827 Views
Chapters 31-33: The third task - 16/08/2010 09:38:01 AM 1769 Views
Characters: The Trio, the Champions, Voldemort, Wormtail,,... *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:32:11 PM 990 Views
Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 03:50:03 PM 1739 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 05:09:48 PM 1732 Views
Re: Ron, Mrs Weasley, Madame Maxime, Wormtail, Voldemort, Quirrel - 27/08/2010 05:23:14 PM 1798 Views
It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. - 27/08/2010 06:01:19 PM 1837 Views
Re: It's a good question... the mystery of Voldemort's wand. - 27/08/2010 06:06:34 PM 1923 Views
Plotting and writing: thrilling action, but also a fair bit of infodump/flashback. *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:34:13 PM 952 Views
Stuff happens. - 27/08/2010 03:50:33 PM 1778 Views
So it does. - 27/08/2010 05:42:40 PM 1896 Views
Re: So it does. - 27/08/2010 05:55:33 PM 1819 Views
Re: Stuff happens. - 05/09/2010 05:48:41 AM 1914 Views
Re: Stuff happens. - 05/09/2010 10:08:49 AM 1818 Views
Riddle Family. - 05/09/2010 05:39:29 AM 1795 Views
No. The three dead bodies are... - 05/09/2010 12:19:48 PM 1907 Views
Re: No. The three dead bodies are... - 05/09/2010 04:46:26 PM 1909 Views
Anything else to add? *NM* - 27/08/2010 01:34:39 PM 940 Views
Naturally - 27/08/2010 03:50:58 PM 1956 Views
Re: Naturally - 27/08/2010 06:06:59 PM 1648 Views
Re: Naturally - 27/08/2010 06:11:26 PM 2107 Views
Chapters 34-37: The climax and the aftermath *NM* - 16/08/2010 09:38:22 AM 933 Views
Characters: Well, pretty much all of them, I guess. *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:04:41 AM 955 Views
Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 28/08/2010 11:57:25 AM 1864 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 29/08/2010 03:00:49 PM 1791 Views
Re: Voldemort, Harry, Dumbledore, Snape, Ron and Hermione - 29/08/2010 03:11:25 PM 2131 Views
Plotting and writing: tying up, explanations and setting up the future books. *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:05:33 AM 931 Views
Revelations and then some - 28/08/2010 12:02:36 PM 1817 Views
The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes - 28/08/2010 11:26:30 PM 2176 Views
Re: The gleam in Dumbledore's eyes - 28/08/2010 11:28:35 PM 2043 Views
Re: Revelations and then some - 29/08/2010 03:22:46 PM 1792 Views
Re: Revelations and then some - 29/08/2010 03:37:45 PM 1919 Views
Any other thoughts? *NM* - 28/08/2010 11:06:03 AM 971 Views
Two questions and one other thing. - 28/08/2010 12:03:14 PM 1932 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. - 29/08/2010 03:27:02 PM 2130 Views
Re: Two questions and one other thing. - 29/08/2010 03:31:43 PM 1825 Views
The book as a whole: overall thoughts, comments and obversations - 16/08/2010 09:39:24 AM 1842 Views
What do/did you think of Rowling's writing in this book? - 16/08/2010 09:40:03 AM 1856 Views
I think she has more room to display her talent in this book. - 28/08/2010 11:27:20 AM 1928 Views
I am not sure that is a good thing - 28/08/2010 12:17:56 PM 1872 Views
Re: I am not sure that is a good thing - 28/08/2010 11:00:29 PM 1963 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 16/08/2010 09:41:01 AM 1980 Views
Is it possible / easy to make the post an Announcement while it's ongoing? - 17/08/2010 03:08:31 PM 1818 Views
Well. Yes. - 17/08/2010 06:22:10 PM 1871 Views
Ah! That really helps me too! - 17/08/2010 08:00:30 PM 1852 Views
Works for me too. Thanks for the tip! *NM* - 17/08/2010 08:13:48 PM 953 Views
When should we start the next book? And at which pace? - 28/08/2010 11:09:07 AM 2089 Views
Re: When should we start the next book? And at which pace? - 28/08/2010 12:05:31 PM 2066 Views
School started and that threw me off. - 30/08/2010 09:01:31 PM 1894 Views
Mine was school as well. - 01/09/2010 05:33:24 AM 1911 Views
I just haven't checked the messageboards at all recently. - 03/09/2010 03:28:20 AM 1904 Views
That would be good - 03/09/2010 08:19:49 AM 1806 Views
I like that idea. - 08/09/2010 04:55:49 PM 1854 Views

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