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Re: Plotting and writing. Camilla Send a noteboard - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM

All comes together and all clues are spelled out (ok, saving a couple for the final two chapters). Rowling really does not want us to miss how clever she has been. Or, a more generous way of putting it, she wants to make sure her younger readers don't get all confused.

"He's at Hogwarts", Fudge's newspaper, Neville's list of passwords, Crookshanks.

And a new clue laying the ground for Rowling's puncturing of the happy "all will be well and we'll live happily ever after" is sown and instantly buried in the drama of death threats and Snape's deranged ramblings and attack on a teacher, not to mention the TRUTH and the reveal of Pettigrew:

You forgot to take your potion tonight, so I took a gobletful along.

In fact, this is one of the tendencies of this book that I really like. It comes in waves. All is well. Snape has been neutralised, Peter is captured, Sirius will be free, and then one misstep takes them from happy-land and WHAM into chaos, death and despair (only to be averted with a time-turner).
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Stan Shunpike. - 28/07/2010 02:01:46 PM 1652 Views
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True, I forgot Mundungus. And, arguably, Snape. - 28/07/2010 02:46:38 PM 1527 Views
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If I'm not mistaken - 30/07/2010 04:36:18 PM 1528 Views
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Right. - 29/07/2010 02:28:34 PM 1545 Views
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Thats easy really - 28/07/2010 02:05:26 PM 1476 Views
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Hmmm I'm wondering...is Lupin one of your fav characters? *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:36:20 PM 775 Views
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Subtlety is what I do *NM* - 29/07/2010 02:43:00 PM 772 Views
He is so lovely. - 03/08/2010 06:00:26 PM 1579 Views
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Themes. *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:24:31 AM 713 Views
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I don't know the answer, but a good place to look would be... (book 4 spoilers) - 05/08/2010 12:33:20 AM 1435 Views
Indeed, but.... ~spoileriffic for Book 4~ - 05/08/2010 02:19:22 PM 1443 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 30/07/2010 02:08:03 PM 676 Views
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Plotting and writing. *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:50:56 PM 659 Views
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I caught that too. - 02/08/2010 02:50:03 PM 1318 Views
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Other things - the Marauder's Map, background story on Sirius and the Potters,... *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:52:30 PM 787 Views
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Chapters 13-15. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:12:57 PM 786 Views
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OK. I don't like how one-sided the Slytherins are. - 08/08/2010 02:30:22 PM 1511 Views
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Agreed. - 08/08/2010 03:03:19 PM 1505 Views
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Well. - 09/08/2010 08:21:24 AM 1535 Views
True - 09/08/2010 02:02:52 PM 1547 Views
we were discussing her numbers in the other thread - 12/08/2010 12:49:29 AM 1675 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:26:12 PM 759 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 03/08/2010 05:31:43 PM 1542 Views
Crookshanks. - 08/08/2010 02:22:36 PM 1440 Views
Yes - 08/08/2010 02:25:12 PM 1410 Views
I knew I saw this somewhere. - 09/08/2010 08:16:01 PM 1356 Views
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pedant. - 09/08/2010 09:27:25 PM 1526 Views
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Re: The Quidditch Cup, and anything else you want to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:48:57 PM 1560 Views
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For Quidditch fans, this is probably the best book. - 03/08/2010 05:38:49 PM 1407 Views
spoilers in headlines, mister! - 03/08/2010 05:43:22 PM 1486 Views
I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 05:40:37 PM 1366 Views
Jordan's commenting is always great. - 03/08/2010 06:00:12 PM 1466 Views
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Re: I really enjoyed the first quidditch match. - 03/08/2010 06:02:53 PM 1431 Views
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Re: Characters. - 04/08/2010 05:18:56 PM 1463 Views
Re. Sirius. - 05/08/2010 02:40:41 PM 1592 Views
Witnessing and getting the truth through to Harry. - 05/08/2010 10:00:34 PM 1483 Views
Hm. - 08/08/2010 02:58:46 PM 1344 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:01:48 PM 1266 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:07:29 PM 1494 Views
Re: Hm. - 08/08/2010 03:12:48 PM 1378 Views
OK - 08/08/2010 03:15:10 PM 1415 Views
Re: OK - 08/08/2010 03:16:23 PM 1495 Views
Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 04:18:52 PM 1345 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 04/08/2010 05:18:04 PM 1229 Views
Heh. - 08/08/2010 03:05:16 PM 1487 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:19:15 PM 899 Views
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Re: Other thoughts. - 08/08/2010 03:15:51 PM 1345 Views
Chapters 19-20. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:27 PM 762 Views
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See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:04:24 PM 1796 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:13:21 PM 1528 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 03:54:31 PM 1904 Views
Re: See my sudden realizations on Snape... (spoilers books 4, 6 & 7) - 05/08/2010 05:01:52 PM 1721 Views
Something I've only just realized about Snape... (massive book six and seven spoilers) - 05/08/2010 02:53:15 PM 1523 Views
I didn't think of that! Of course you are right! - 05/08/2010 02:58:45 PM 1481 Views
Plotting and writing. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:40:42 PM 652 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 05/08/2010 02:48:02 PM 1604 Views
I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:09:59 PM 1459 Views
Re: I think it's a good thing she explains her clues. - 05/08/2010 03:16:37 PM 1444 Views
Ah, yes, my bad. - 05/08/2010 04:02:26 PM 1403 Views
Other thoughts. *NM* - 05/08/2010 02:41:01 PM 718 Views
killing - 05/08/2010 02:48:33 PM 1344 Views
Yeah, I noted the same thing. (spoilers for rest of series) - 05/08/2010 03:12:15 PM 1557 Views
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Chapters 21-22. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:13:42 PM 735 Views
And for the last time in this book... characters? *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:03:30 PM 801 Views
Re: And for the last time in this book... characters? - 06/08/2010 06:26:23 PM 1444 Views
Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 05:04:14 PM 1270 Views
Re: Plotting and writing. - 06/08/2010 06:27:54 PM 1312 Views
I normally don't care for time travel. - 07/08/2010 01:20:13 AM 1516 Views
And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. *NM* - 06/08/2010 05:04:46 PM 816 Views
Re: And everything else you noticed and want to comment on. - 06/08/2010 06:28:40 PM 1456 Views
I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 01:23:02 AM 1626 Views
Re: I love the very very end. - 07/08/2010 08:49:50 AM 1450 Views
Overall thoughts. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:14:03 PM 772 Views
Character development. - 28/07/2010 01:17:20 PM 1344 Views
Harry develops by leaps and bounds - 28/07/2010 02:13:10 PM 1374 Views
Overarching plot and themes. *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:18:27 PM 723 Views
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How good a book is this - compared to the rest of the series, and compared to YA books in general? *NM* - 28/07/2010 01:19:06 PM 782 Views
I'd say it is one of the best in the series - 02/08/2010 10:23:49 AM 1335 Views
Absolutely. - 05/08/2010 08:15:20 PM 1503 Views
More of a question, really - 01/08/2010 10:40:23 PM 1403 Views
I think this is situational and a sad commentary on his home life. - 02/08/2010 03:01:49 PM 1245 Views
Well, but the question still remains - 02/08/2010 03:04:01 PM 1358 Views
Oh, got it. - 02/08/2010 03:12:47 PM 1427 Views
Ah, interesting - 02/08/2010 03:50:41 PM 1491 Views
The problem came down to actually doing the work. - 02/08/2010 03:54:21 PM 1405 Views
I never had any. - 03/08/2010 03:25:07 PM 1371 Views
I'm finding this one more difficult to discuss. - 03/08/2010 05:38:01 PM 1409 Views
Apparently you are not alone in that. - 03/08/2010 05:48:13 PM 1522 Views
I suppose this is more or less the right place for this. - 04/08/2010 11:59:45 PM 1475 Views
Hehehe - 05/08/2010 12:14:38 AM 1431 Views
I had totally forgotten about that choir and the Ray Bradbury reference. - 05/08/2010 12:37:09 AM 1312 Views
Okay, so possibly a Shakespeare reference also used by Bradbury. Whatever. *NM* - 05/08/2010 12:37:56 AM 706 Views
Possibly? It's the witches in Macbeth. *NM* - 05/08/2010 08:36:20 AM 720 Views
Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 06:46:26 PM 1327 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:16:37 PM 1540 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 07:57:02 PM 1347 Views
Re: Since I'm being scolded, I'll try to focus. - 09/08/2010 08:00:01 PM 1421 Views
Suggestions for the re-read. - 28/07/2010 06:14:49 PM 1528 Views
I was wondering when this would come up - 28/07/2010 06:39:01 PM 1372 Views
I knew I was gonna forget something. - 28/07/2010 06:55:50 PM 1509 Views
Perhaps - 29/07/2010 09:29:53 AM 1424 Views
I considered that, but it seemed overly non-trusting, and nobody has posted in them yet? *NM* - 29/07/2010 10:12:23 AM 619 Views
Yet - 29/07/2010 10:13:44 AM 1458 Views
<Tattoos "Poor Impulse Control" on your forehead> - 29/07/2010 11:00:07 AM 1513 Views
I may be missing a reference - 29/07/2010 11:03:47 AM 1384 Views
The villain is a huge Aleutian man with such a tattoo. *NM* - 29/07/2010 11:09:30 AM 751 Views
I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:46:13 PM 1452 Views
Re: I think a little break might be a good idea. Give people a chance to catch up. - 02/08/2010 11:59:20 PM 1418 Views
I think I should make clear, just in case, that I don't mean immediately. - 03/08/2010 05:11:26 PM 1368 Views
Yes - 03/08/2010 05:13:10 PM 1386 Views
Your patience is admirable. *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:15:45 PM 706 Views
There are no words *NM* - 03/08/2010 05:16:51 PM 785 Views

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