Yes, that was the main thing I was getting at with the "strong stomach" comment.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 01/07/2010 09:58:14 AM
It didn't really occur to me to wonder about the consistency about it, or whether it made sense for them to have the custom without us hearing about it before. But it was certainly nauseating. I don't know if I agree with you that the depiction was that sexist, though. Certainly, the "women like to keep women down" comments lacked nuance, but wasn't that simply because Erikson neglected to tackle the issue in depth? It's always risky to touch on topics like that without dealing with them properly, but then the books do that with plenty of topics, if perhaps not as controversial ones. I don't really think it was sexist per se - after all, the Malazan series is about as far from sexist as you can get, on the whole.
As for whether it made sense considering the other aspects of the Barghast culture... interesting topic. It is possible that we were a bit misled in Memories of Ice by the fact that we mostly see the Barghast through Hetan and Cafal. Considering Hetan, we then assumed they had to be nearly as liberal about gender issues as the Malazans. But it does make sense that Hetan was not that representative, and that not all Barghast women were like her. Still, one does get the impression Erikson really wasn't thinking of hobbling when he wrote the Barghast then, and that he invented it now for plot reasons more than anything else, in order to break Tool and get Hetan's children away. The seemingly pointless and random slaughter of the Barghast that John mentions fits in that as well.
As for whether it made sense considering the other aspects of the Barghast culture... interesting topic. It is possible that we were a bit misled in Memories of Ice by the fact that we mostly see the Barghast through Hetan and Cafal. Considering Hetan, we then assumed they had to be nearly as liberal about gender issues as the Malazans. But it does make sense that Hetan was not that representative, and that not all Barghast women were like her. Still, one does get the impression Erikson really wasn't thinking of hobbling when he wrote the Barghast then, and that he invented it now for plot reasons more than anything else, in order to break Tool and get Hetan's children away. The seemingly pointless and random slaughter of the Barghast that John mentions fits in that as well.
Erikson's Dust of Dreams (no real spoilers)
01/07/2010 12:21:07 AM
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Excellent review. Strengthens my resolve to reread at least part of TtH before starting. Thanks. *NM*
01/07/2010 02:08:40 AM
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You don't need to reread TtH, actually. Reaper's Gale is much more relevant.
01/07/2010 09:44:43 AM
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Good review, thanks! *major spoilers*
01/07/2010 05:34:59 AM
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Yeah, I suppose he's an exception that does get significant character development...
01/07/2010 10:10:07 AM
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What enraged me was the blatantly sexist treatment of... (Spoilers!)
01/07/2010 06:09:21 AM
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Yes, that was the main thing I was getting at with the "strong stomach" comment.
01/07/2010 09:58:14 AM
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I keep hearing about this 'Hobbling of Hetan'.
01/07/2010 12:16:39 PM
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Okay... (spoilers, obviously, and yes it is gruesome).
01/07/2010 12:30:28 PM
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OK I see. *edited for spelling*
01/07/2010 12:41:16 PM
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Re: OK I see.
01/07/2010 12:52:27 PM
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Re: OK I see.
01/07/2010 01:09:30 PM
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