Brave New World may seem more realistic NOW, but when they were written, 1984 wins.
Tom Send a noteboard - 16/06/2010 07:20:04 PM
1984 wins hands-down because it was simply an extension of what was already happening in the Soviet Union under Stalin at the time. The doublespeak, the personality cult, the fawning adoration, the bizarre puritanism that one wouldn't necessarily expect from an atheist state - it was all there.
Furthermore, the world was subjected, in 1937 and 1938, to show trial after show trial where the accused admitted their guilt in open court. People in the West didn't realize that several "fake" trials were conducted beforehand (complete with fake foreign journalists) to see if the accused would remain frightened enough to actually go through with the (false) confession (they usually threatened killing the whole family, after torture, including distant relatives).
Given that China went communist in 1949, all of Eastern Europe was under Stalin's control and communist movements were springing up all over Latin America, Africa and Asia, when 1984 was written, it was a very realistic (and chilling) possibility for the world. In fact, it wasn't (ironically) until the Soviet Union bankrupted itself in the 1980s that the threat of a 1984 world faded from memory.
Brave New World is the sort of dystopia that one would expect from a free, permissive society, and so it remains something to be concerned about even now that the Marxist threat has disappeared.
Of course, North Korea still looks like 1984, and Cuba isn't far off, and Hugo Chavez is trying to turn Venezuela into a workers' "paradise". Of course, in all three examples they'll bankrupt themselves and destroy their economies much faster than it took for the Soviet Union to collapse (North Korea has no economy, effectively, and Cuba's is defunct, with Venezuela heading there fast despite its oil reserves).
Furthermore, the world was subjected, in 1937 and 1938, to show trial after show trial where the accused admitted their guilt in open court. People in the West didn't realize that several "fake" trials were conducted beforehand (complete with fake foreign journalists) to see if the accused would remain frightened enough to actually go through with the (false) confession (they usually threatened killing the whole family, after torture, including distant relatives).
Given that China went communist in 1949, all of Eastern Europe was under Stalin's control and communist movements were springing up all over Latin America, Africa and Asia, when 1984 was written, it was a very realistic (and chilling) possibility for the world. In fact, it wasn't (ironically) until the Soviet Union bankrupted itself in the 1980s that the threat of a 1984 world faded from memory.
Brave New World is the sort of dystopia that one would expect from a free, permissive society, and so it remains something to be concerned about even now that the Marxist threat has disappeared.
Of course, North Korea still looks like 1984, and Cuba isn't far off, and Hugo Chavez is trying to turn Venezuela into a workers' "paradise". Of course, in all three examples they'll bankrupt themselves and destroy their economies much faster than it took for the Soviet Union to collapse (North Korea has no economy, effectively, and Cuba's is defunct, with Venezuela heading there fast despite its oil reserves).
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.
ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
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ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius
Ummaka qinnassa nīk!
*MySmiley*
Dystopias
16/06/2010 01:21:22 PM
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Brave New World may seem more realistic NOW, but when they were written, 1984 wins.
16/06/2010 07:20:04 PM
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I found Brave New world more believable for one main reason
16/06/2010 07:43:02 PM
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I would like to say that I truthfully don't believe any of these are ever going to happen
16/06/2010 09:57:49 PM
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I have never liked having to choose between the two
17/06/2010 12:33:56 PM
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I think the differences is what makes comparing them so interesting.
18/06/2010 01:54:28 AM
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