You agree at least that it's possible to deduce before LoC that Slayer is a deadly assassin/bounty hunter/hitman of the Shadow and uses TAR in the flesh? And you also agree that it's possible to deduce that Slayer and Luc are the same being? (e.g. both have the inhuman smell and suffer from Perrin's shot)
Yes, (I do agree with these.)
If you agree with this, your only problem seems to have been, how Slayer can use TAR in the flesh. You apparently (wrongly) thought that Luc is some kind of Dreamwalker, but instead of him entering TAR in the dream, the dead Isam is then somehow in TAR " in the flesh" (although he is dead..), like a Hero of the Horn, or something like that. Irrespective of the question if your idea makes any sense (in my view, it doesn't), I believe one could possibly also come up with the (actually correct!) idea that the DO gave LuC/Slayer the ability to enter TAR in the flesh at one point in the World and exist TAR again at any point, basically like a channeler can use TAR with a Gateway (we see that creatures of the Shadow often have channeler-like abilities). In this case Slayer could of course also use TAR to travel distances in the Real World, which would e.g. better explain how can Slayer quickly reach the Blight to get more Shadowspawn and quickly return to the Two Rivers or how he finds his victims. Naturally to have such an ability would make sense for someone, who was precisely created to make assassinations, namely to "course and kill". It would also explain the strange assassinations in the Stone and the WT, which apparently weren't done by a normal Gray Man, but by a special assassin.
That my idea wasn't correct is pretty obvious, but I'm not using it here because I somehow think that my initial impressions upon reading the book because I well know that I can be quite oblivious. Even as of Crossroads of Twilight I hadn't realised that Ishamael had appeared on screen. I'm using it because even now, knowing that it is wrong, knowing what comes later, it still makes more sense given the available information than divining the truth. It's not only more consistent with what Slayer does in that book,it also ties in neatly with the Dark Prophecy and the idea that dead souls can inhabit the Dreamworld, which we also discover in this book or the next.
Now, trying to defend this hypothesis would be futile, because it's a fact that it is wrong due to Winter's Heart. It is simply an example of a possibility for explaining Slayer that is consistent with what we have read.
Now, as for guessing that Slayer could jump in and out of the Dreamworld and use it for high-speed travel, that is inconsistent with what we know at the time. You've tried to provide an explanation for why he came back, but only because you started with the conclusion that he chose to do so. Nothing from that scene indicates that he had something precious he came back for, the entire scene indicates that he wants to be as far as possible as soon as possible. Even in retrospect, I doubt Slayer chose to come back. The way he disappeared after getting shot is inconsistent with the 'blurry motion' that Slayer has used to quickly move through the Dreamworld at high speeds, I still believe that he was simply Dreamwalking, though obviously I now know that this would be because he chose to do so, possibly so that nobody would realise something was amiss if someone entered his room while he was hunting.
The point is, the only incident of travel between the Dreamworld and the real world is consistent with Dreamwalking and inconsistent with travelling. How can your conclusion, at the time, be anything other than Slayer was dreaming?
I actually realise this is not especially important because even if Slayer couldn't jump through dreams, he still could have infiltrated the palace of Andor through mundane stealth, but I think the initial point of this discussion is no longer the centre of interest .
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson
22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM
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The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is...
22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM
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So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway?
22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM
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I think Slayer spied on Asmo
22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM
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I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM*
22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM
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Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM*
22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM
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Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM
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Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR.
28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM
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In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM*
29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM
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As far as I'm concerned...
25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM
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The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer...
25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM
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Correction...
25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM
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So, basically...
25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM
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The clues are there?
25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM
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Re: The clues are there?
26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM
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He wasn't being insulting, I don't think.
26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM
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well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh?
26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM
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Apparently...
26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM
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No it isn't.
26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM
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You don't understand...
27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM
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Re: You don't understand...
27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM
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Both merged into one being
29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM
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Not what I asked.
29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM
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If he couldn't do this...
29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM
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Re: If he couldn't do this...
29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM
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That Basel Gill comparison just silly...
29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM
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I've asked you only one question, repeatedly.
30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM
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Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues...
30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM
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You have never provided anything even resembling evidence.
30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM
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Dude
30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM
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You know what's really embarrassing?
30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM
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One last time...
31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM
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Egwene did it though
09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM
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Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't.
09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM
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Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM*
09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM
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But we don't actually see that
09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM
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But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense.
09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM
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by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle
09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM
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A question on balefire/2 servants
24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM
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Re: A question on balefire/2 servants
24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM
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First rule of balefire:
25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM
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Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does!
28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM
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On the servants theory
25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM
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Rand's odd wounds
29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM
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RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds.
29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM
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Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to?
25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM
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RJ said that. *NM*
25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM
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@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R...
31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM
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Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM
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Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes
31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM
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