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No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM
Ever considered pointing them out instead of just insinuating that I am an idiot? Why did Slayer decide to return to Emond's Field to flee from Perrin? Did he just want to give Perrin a fair chance to catch him?


Luc wasn't that badly wounded. Perhaps he wanted to save his belongings and soon after he fled entered TAR again.

Of course, this scene shows that Isam & Luc are indeed basically the same person; and since Hopper says that Slayer is in TAR in the flesh, it's clear that Slayer doesn't enter TAR like a Dreamwalker, but rather like a channeler who makes making a Gateway to TAR. We know that the DO also gave other minions abilities similar to those normally only channelers have, e.g. the Gray Men a disguise.


All it shows is that Slayer is there in the flesh, it certainly doesn't mean he travels there via Gateway. As I said, it seems far more reasonable to deduce that Luc is always in the real world, and Isam is always in the Dreamworld 'in the flesh', since we had not at that point seen that he had the ability to choose. There is no evidence in this book that Slayer can travel through real space via the Dreamworld, and there is evidence against it. It is therefore absurd to assume that he could do this in order to kill Asmodean.
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Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson newyorkersedai - 22/03/2010 01:53:54 AM 1835 Views
idle speculation != "Intuitivly obvious" Nargs - 22/03/2010 03:01:10 AM 633 Views
The best explanation for the "intuitively obvious"-comment is... Etzel - 22/03/2010 09:41:32 AM 652 Views
So again...how would Slayer know he was in the hallway? Jeordam - 22/03/2010 03:18:51 PM 652 Views
I think Slayer spied on Asmo Etzel - 22/03/2010 03:45:20 PM 513 Views
Fair enough.... Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:25:25 PM 687 Views
I think... Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:31:41 AM 581 Views
I agree. Slayer is the most intuitively obvious candidate. *NM* Narg - 22/03/2010 06:29:07 PM 240 Views
Slayer....the book4 minor villian? *NM* Jeordam - 22/03/2010 06:34:52 PM 384 Views
Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. Etzel - 23/03/2010 09:11:39 AM 477 Views
Re: Slayer actually was a major villian in TSR. darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:16:59 PM 507 Views
In my view, Graendal might have sent Slayer, which would explain her knowledge. *NM* Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:45:14 AM 509 Views
Actually that's one of my hang-ups about Slayer too darius_sedai - 06/04/2010 02:27:22 PM 491 Views
As far as I'm concerned... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:42:53 AM 501 Views
The problem is that people don't read the books or at least ignore what is said about Slayer... Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:41:09 AM 495 Views
Correction... Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 05:22:46 PM 445 Views
So, basically... Etzel - 25/03/2010 05:50:42 PM 481 Views
The clues are there? Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:29:16 PM 489 Views
Re: The clues are there? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 12:51:43 AM 469 Views
He wasn't being insulting, I don't think. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 02:16:26 AM 517 Views
well, RJ was a nuclear engineer. 'Nuff said about obviousness, huh? newyorkersedai - 26/03/2010 04:38:00 AM 516 Views
Apparently... Etzel - 26/03/2010 08:58:32 AM 494 Views
No it isn't. Fanatic-Templar - 26/03/2010 05:43:02 PM 475 Views
You don't understand... Etzel - 27/03/2010 09:11:35 AM 505 Views
Re: You don't understand... Fanatic-Templar - 27/03/2010 05:23:35 PM 501 Views
Re: You don't understand... newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:17:40 PM 473 Views
Yes, it's Winter's Heart. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 04:01:41 AM 486 Views
Both merged into one being Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:43:47 AM 518 Views
Not what I asked. Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 06:10:42 PM 464 Views
If he couldn't do this... Etzel - 29/03/2010 06:59:16 PM 496 Views
Re: If he couldn't do this... Fanatic-Templar - 29/03/2010 07:46:39 PM 460 Views
That Basel Gill comparison just silly... Etzel - 29/03/2010 08:49:19 PM 512 Views
Clearly, one of you has proved that Basel Gill is Demandred *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:12:00 PM 245 Views
I've asked you only one question, repeatedly. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 12:34:44 AM 546 Views
Yeah, and I repeatedly tried to show you the clues... Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:17:59 AM 476 Views
You have never provided anything even resembling evidence. Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 08:20:54 PM 444 Views
Dude Etzel - 30/03/2010 09:49:05 PM 431 Views
You know what's really embarrassing? Fanatic-Templar - 30/03/2010 10:28:38 PM 565 Views
be nice *NM* saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 01:22:03 AM 226 Views
One last time... Etzel - 31/03/2010 09:18:01 AM 481 Views
Re: One last time... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:20:24 PM 483 Views
No... Etzel - 31/03/2010 06:31:57 PM 486 Views
Re: No... Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 11:43:42 PM 475 Views
So... Etzel - 01/04/2010 10:22:31 AM 463 Views
Re: So... Fanatic-Templar - 01/04/2010 06:41:34 PM 569 Views
Egwene did it though darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 02:26:10 AM 482 Views
Not before Lord of Chaos she didn't. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 08:03:12 AM 465 Views
Rand does it in the end of TFoH, though, shortly before Asmo's death. *NM* Etzel - 09/04/2010 08:34:23 AM 237 Views
But we don't actually see that darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:23:37 PM 461 Views
But why would he return to his starting point, makes no sense. Etzel - 09/04/2010 12:44:21 PM 494 Views
by your argument Rand should have re-entered the waking world outside to join that battle darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 07:58:26 PM 476 Views
Hmm. True, that. Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:28:15 PM 414 Views
I see what you are saying now darius_sedai - 09/04/2010 12:08:00 PM 415 Views
Yep Fanatic-Templar - 09/04/2010 07:27:27 PM 442 Views
A question on balefire/2 servants The Angry Druid - 24/03/2010 04:31:49 PM 430 Views
Re: A question on balefire/2 servants TaskmasterJack - 24/03/2010 05:03:32 PM 440 Views
First rule of balefire: Fanatic-Templar - 25/03/2010 06:44:17 AM 433 Views
Re: First rule of balefire: Whatever RJ wants to undo from it is what BF does! darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 06:59:04 PM 433 Views
Yep, that's my understanding too. Gher - 25/03/2010 07:00:39 PM 464 Views
On the servants theory Etzel - 25/03/2010 11:33:08 AM 439 Views
Rand's odd wounds newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 02:48:58 AM 428 Views
RJ said that special properties of TAR was responsible for the wounds. Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:47:01 AM 440 Views
Who says the Dark One couldn't bring Asmodean back? Why would he want to? Cannoli - 25/03/2010 05:50:55 AM 521 Views
RJ said that. *NM* Etzel - 25/03/2010 09:31:32 AM 418 Views
Do you have that quote handy? darius_sedai - 28/03/2010 07:01:06 PM 456 Views
From memory, but can't find the URL newyorkersedai - 28/03/2010 08:09:29 PM 431 Views
Here: Etzel - 29/03/2010 09:48:36 AM 443 Views
thanks! good job *NM* newyorkersedai - 29/03/2010 10:13:12 PM 202 Views
You dont address all the criteria saidarisnowtainted - 30/03/2010 11:27:58 PM 438 Views
Did you mean me? *NM* newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:54:56 AM 199 Views
@Fanatic-Templar: Proof Slayer can't travel through T'A'R... BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 03:54:19 AM 435 Views
Exactly my point. Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 05:02:41 AM 452 Views
Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes newyorkersedai - 31/03/2010 05:56:46 AM 492 Views
Lan can swordfight with his boots? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 31/03/2010 06:41:53 AM 216 Views
I don't think so... read again *NM* BlackAdder - 31/03/2010 10:54:03 PM 191 Views
Re: Maybe none of it matters anyway, Slayer will go down like a punk and I know how it goes saidarisnowtainted - 31/03/2010 03:52:16 PM 459 Views
thanks! but as soon as I posted newyorkersedai - 01/04/2010 03:43:59 AM 427 Views
Re: Intuitively obvious, my dear Watson saidarisnowtainted - 14/05/2010 01:28:38 AM 486 Views
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