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Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM
...I also think that part of RJ's motivation in making their rise to power so "easy" has to do with their ages and lack of experience.

To take a simple example... Egwene in the Tower under Siuan. The first and most logical question is, why would she even begin to work against Siuan? As you said, it is easy for an objective reader to point out the flaws in Siuan's reign and realize that her style of doing things would not suffice in this kind of changing world.

But where would an eighteen year old village girl with no political experience even begin to find the requisite foresight and wisdom needed to make such a discovery? Even if she did, imagine how hard it would be for her to find any allies at all. Would even Nynaeve and Elayne have supported her if she decided one day to depose Siuan? Would it have seemed realistic if she succeeded?
Initially I had assumed in my hypothetical alternative scenario that Siuan's attachment to the status quo, refusal to adapt to Rand's new order and obsessive focus on her own priorities and strategems, combined issues that arise from her refusal to accept the destruction that will accompany Rand's efforts, would motivate Egwene & co to take the side or, or stir up sisters who were disenchanted with Siuan's mishandling of the situation. But, silly me. That would necessitate Egwene giving a damn about Rand when his actions clashed with the Tower's agenda. Sorry, I was so foolish. You Egwene fans know her so well, of course you would immediately see that there is no way she would ever be motivated to rise up and take down the Amyrlin Seat because it had to be done for Rand.

Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
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hehe I think I fell asleep during that read :p *NM* - 17/03/2010 01:12:55 AM 416 Views
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Good post. - 27/03/2010 01:43:24 PM 772 Views
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All the way through, up to ripping her self-delusional assessments of her "achievements" in KoD - 02/04/2010 09:27:54 PM 791 Views
A shame I missed it, then - 04/04/2010 08:55:40 AM 783 Views
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Cliffs notes anyone? *NM* - 17/03/2010 05:31:02 AM 1517 Views
TLDR *NM* - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 602 Views
Trolloc luRns da Reeading? - 17/03/2010 08:27:23 AM 937 Views
Too long, didnt read *NM* - 17/03/2010 04:23:34 PM 366 Views
Cmon ppl pls reply to this, Cannoli has spent such a long time writing it.... I couldn't be bothered *NM* - 17/03/2010 10:31:38 AM 388 Views
*NM* - 17/03/2010 10:32:04 AM 394 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? - 17/03/2010 01:38:02 PM 894 Views
Thank you *NM* - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 469 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 840 Views
I did read it and it was good - 17/03/2010 02:33:26 PM 773 Views
I agree... *NM* - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 409 Views
That depends on certain interpretations... - 18/03/2010 03:29:15 PM 995 Views
Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... - 17/03/2010 02:49:55 PM 879 Views
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I agree - 18/03/2010 03:35:05 PM 948 Views
Strong vs. Hard in other words - 19/03/2010 05:10:41 AM 805 Views
Loooong *NM* - 17/03/2010 03:52:25 PM 442 Views
Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 733 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 832 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 954 Views
Oh and I forgot to add - 18/03/2010 01:41:28 AM 860 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 855 Views
I think this is an excellent analysis - 18/03/2010 01:56:33 PM 889 Views
Thanks. *NM* - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 438 Views
While most of this is true... - 19/03/2010 06:47:19 AM 759 Views
Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM 785 Views
What do you mean by "properly"? - 20/03/2010 07:57:26 AM 750 Views
She did that because the Black Ajah was her personal boogeyman - 20/03/2010 09:58:54 AM 937 Views
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