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Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM
...I also think that part of RJ's motivation in making their rise to power so "easy" has to do with their ages and lack of experience.

To take a simple example... Egwene in the Tower under Siuan. The first and most logical question is, why would she even begin to work against Siuan? As you said, it is easy for an objective reader to point out the flaws in Siuan's reign and realize that her style of doing things would not suffice in this kind of changing world.

But where would an eighteen year old village girl with no political experience even begin to find the requisite foresight and wisdom needed to make such a discovery? Even if she did, imagine how hard it would be for her to find any allies at all. Would even Nynaeve and Elayne have supported her if she decided one day to depose Siuan? Would it have seemed realistic if she succeeded?
Initially I had assumed in my hypothetical alternative scenario that Siuan's attachment to the status quo, refusal to adapt to Rand's new order and obsessive focus on her own priorities and strategems, combined issues that arise from her refusal to accept the destruction that will accompany Rand's efforts, would motivate Egwene & co to take the side or, or stir up sisters who were disenchanted with Siuan's mishandling of the situation. But, silly me. That would necessitate Egwene giving a damn about Rand when his actions clashed with the Tower's agenda. Sorry, I was so foolish. You Egwene fans know her so well, of course you would immediately see that there is no way she would ever be motivated to rise up and take down the Amyrlin Seat because it had to be done for Rand.

Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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TLDR *NM* - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 598 Views
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Too long, didnt read *NM* - 17/03/2010 04:23:34 PM 363 Views
Cmon ppl pls reply to this, Cannoli has spent such a long time writing it.... I couldn't be bothered *NM* - 17/03/2010 10:31:38 AM 384 Views
*NM* - 17/03/2010 10:32:04 AM 391 Views
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Thank you *NM* - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 466 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 837 Views
I did read it and it was good - 17/03/2010 02:33:26 PM 767 Views
I agree... *NM* - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 406 Views
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Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 725 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 824 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 948 Views
Oh and I forgot to add - 18/03/2010 01:41:28 AM 851 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 850 Views
I think this is an excellent analysis - 18/03/2010 01:56:33 PM 878 Views
Thanks. *NM* - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 436 Views
While most of this is true... - 19/03/2010 06:47:19 AM 749 Views
Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM 779 Views
What do you mean by "properly"? - 20/03/2010 07:57:26 AM 747 Views
She did that because the Black Ajah was her personal boogeyman - 20/03/2010 09:58:54 AM 922 Views
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