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Re: Jim Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 05:58:17 PM
Well, we know that Taim gave them the order to kill Rand in Far Madding. Thus, I don't see why he should doubt that they could achieve it (he just couldn't predict Fain's involvement).


Considering the fact that the first two Asha'man to make it into the city disappear after attempting to take Rand on by themselves, I think it is entirely reasonable that Taim might think the other two would fail as well.

Slayer thinking in WH that no male channeler except the male Forsaken knows how to reach him speaks against the idea that Taim could contact him, because it seems more likely that Slayer truly knows who can find him and who not. The disguise suggests that someone didn't want Moridin or Rand to find out who gave the order, likely a second chance Forsaken like Osan'gar who already clashed with Rand and wants to prevent directly fighting a channeler with access to the Choedan Kal.


Because what the characters believe to be true and what actually is true are so often the same? I can easily see Taim wanting to have redundancy plans. Plus, the fact that he is directing the Asha'man, he would likely know where Rand is staying. IMO, the only other suspects would be Demandred and Ishy. Demandred wouldn't send someone else to kill Rand and Ishy didn't want him dead at that point and would have wanted Slayer to retrieve the Choedan Kal.

The idea that RJ invented a bad assassin for the Shadow, who is obviously still held in high regard of the Shadow bosses (even the DO uses him as an assassin), is simply ridiculous. If Slayer fails to kill someone, it is because the author decides that the victim is further needed in the plot; but not to suggest that Slayer is a bad assassin. In the same way, the Forsaken or the gholam failing to kill the ta'veren or the Wondergirls, shall not suggest that they are completely incompetent.


I don't know if you noticed or not, but most of RJ's villians are kind of lacking in the serious threat department. And whil his failure to kill Fain doesn't necessarily make him a bad assassin there is no evidence for Slayer being a good assassin.

Many top channelers point out that they can naturally be killed by anyone, if they are surprised and the attacker acts too quickly. For example, even Min manages to wound Semirhage twice with her knife, or Fain to stab Rand. Besides that, we don't know what other powers Slayer has. According to BS there was a deleted scene in TSR, which had told more about his powers. Maybe Slayer can even temporarily stun a channeler. That he casually offers his patron to try killing Rand again in WH, even if it's not clear if Rand is in Far Madding anymore, suggests that Slayer actually isn't afraid of top channelers.


Yes, Semi gets wounded, not killed. And Semi is arrogant enough to think that no one would dare attack her. Rand was attacked from behind and Fain still only managed a small wound that would have done nothing except for Fain's magic dagger. Slayer being willing to go after Rand again doesn't show his lack of fear of channelers, only his commitment to serving the Shadow. Besides, even if Rand hadn't been in Far Madding, a sleeping channeler isn't much of a threat to anyone.
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