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That depends on certain interpretations... Cannoli Send a noteboard - 18/03/2010 03:29:15 PM
And I would agree that if a major theme of the series is that you have to struggle to reach your goals, some of the struggles/setbacks the major characters could have faced could have been greater.

However, I would point out that, in terms of reality, the rise of many young people to power in the real world has been similiarly "Blessed".

Alexander the Great's rise to power essentially was eased by the conquests of his father. Henry Tudor's (or we know him now Henry VII) rise to power was very similiar to Egwene's, in that he got to overthrow the "imposter" Richard III, rather than his brother, whom he never would have been able to unseat (and he got the chance to lead the Lancaster party because the Yorkists had killed all the other Lancaster leaders, leaving him with the only claim, which btw, was a rather lame and somewhat illegitimate claim). Augustus Caesar was able to let Mark Anthony do all the heavy lifting until it was time to get rid of Anthony and then Anthony made an extremely foolish mistake to allow himself be rid of. Henry Plantagenet married the most powerful woman in the world (and adding to the boon of this marriage, got her previous marriage to his biggest rival annulled, thus enriching himself at the same time he dealt a body blow to Louis VII)

Sometimes in the real world, it really is that easy.


For instance, many suspect that the murder of Philip of Macedon was not a spontaneous act, and while not everyone blames Alexander specifically, his mother is held a strong contender for the responsibility, and Alexander may even been a party to her plot, if not actually a co-conspirator. In the case of Octavian, you could argue that having to share power with a guy like Antony, whose character was highly dubious long before his liaison with Cleopatra, and even offer up his sister to a degenerate & licentious brute in order to keep the wheels of power flowing smoothly, would fall into the category of things the good guys have to live with. As a similar example in WoT, Mazrim Taim's alignment with the Shadow was very disappointing to me, as it provides a convenient excuse for getting rid of him, rather than having to tolerate a jerk like that and even honor and elevate him in exchange for his first class service. Not only that, a somewhat adversarial and jerkish leader of the BT would make an interesting foil for Egwene as leader of the WT and Elayne as the technical sovereign of the BT's headquarters. Things like that keep them sharp, and while Logain as the eventual leader has promise with his jerkishness, he shows too many signs of being willing to go easy and walk soft around Aes Sedai. As long as Taim is withheld from actually trying the decision by battle, him as a non-Darkfriend but hostile adversary to the Aes Sedai would make for a more interesting setting, IMO.
Cannoli
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Did the characters come too easily to power? - 16/03/2010 11:37:31 PM 1938 Views
hehe I think I fell asleep during that read :p *NM* - 17/03/2010 01:12:55 AM 414 Views
Yes, and for Rand at least IMO, playing nice has cost dearly - 17/03/2010 04:59:32 AM 967 Views
Not necessarily - 18/03/2010 03:17:10 PM 905 Views
Good post. - 27/03/2010 01:43:24 PM 766 Views
Unfortunately, no. - 31/03/2010 10:23:58 AM 881 Views
Re: Unfortunately, no. - 02/04/2010 07:54:10 AM 712 Views
All the way through, up to ripping her self-delusional assessments of her "achievements" in KoD - 02/04/2010 09:27:54 PM 783 Views
A shame I missed it, then - 04/04/2010 08:55:40 AM 771 Views
Re: A shame I missed it, then - 10/04/2010 08:17:38 AM 751 Views
Cliffs notes anyone? *NM* - 17/03/2010 05:31:02 AM 1514 Views
TLDR *NM* - 17/03/2010 05:43:01 AM 598 Views
Trolloc luRns da Reeading? - 17/03/2010 08:27:23 AM 930 Views
Too long, didnt read *NM* - 17/03/2010 04:23:34 PM 363 Views
Cmon ppl pls reply to this, Cannoli has spent such a long time writing it.... I couldn't be bothered *NM* - 17/03/2010 10:31:38 AM 384 Views
*NM* - 17/03/2010 10:32:04 AM 391 Views
Re: Did the characters come too easily to power? - 17/03/2010 01:38:02 PM 888 Views
Thank you *NM* - 18/03/2010 03:17:52 PM 466 Views
I agree, very well written and thought out. - 19/03/2010 07:32:59 AM 837 Views
I did read it and it was good - 17/03/2010 02:33:26 PM 767 Views
I agree... *NM* - 17/03/2010 02:48:19 PM 406 Views
That depends on certain interpretations... - 18/03/2010 03:29:15 PM 991 Views
Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... - 17/03/2010 02:49:55 PM 872 Views
Re: Rand is at the perfect position after TGS for his downfall... - 17/03/2010 06:15:18 PM 822 Views
I agree - 18/03/2010 03:35:05 PM 940 Views
Strong vs. Hard in other words - 19/03/2010 05:10:41 AM 799 Views
Loooong *NM* - 17/03/2010 03:52:25 PM 434 Views
Look who's talking - look at how you write "long" ! - 18/03/2010 02:06:42 PM 725 Views
Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 05:35:08 PM 824 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 17/03/2010 10:08:34 PM 948 Views
Oh and I forgot to add - 18/03/2010 01:41:28 AM 852 Views
Re: Sheesh, you people are babies. I read it. Some good points. - 18/03/2010 03:37:09 PM 850 Views
I think this is an excellent analysis - 18/03/2010 01:56:33 PM 878 Views
Thanks. *NM* - 18/03/2010 04:28:52 PM 436 Views
While most of this is true... - 19/03/2010 06:47:19 AM 749 Views
Siuan's failure to properly help Rand should motivate Egwene to overthrow...oh, right. Egwene. - 19/03/2010 11:52:10 PM 779 Views
What do you mean by "properly"? - 20/03/2010 07:57:26 AM 747 Views
She did that because the Black Ajah was her personal boogeyman - 20/03/2010 09:58:54 AM 922 Views
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