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Still, this quote doesn't foreshadow Aran'gar's death at all. *NM* Etzel Send a noteboard - 17/03/2010 06:24:00 PM
I don't follow your logic which suggests that Ishamael and Aran'gar have identical goals. Basically, we don't know what the terms of Graendal or Aran'gar's alliance was, so I don't think we can assume she outlived her usefulness to him.

My point is that most of the Forsaken have been defeated or killed by their own weaknesses - Rahvin's pride, Lanfear's over-confidence, Ishamael's hubris, Moghediens' cowardice, for example. Thus it makes sense that a Forsaken would die in an ironic way - ie: pulled down by their own predisposition.
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Ironic foreshadowing of Graendal's death? - 17/03/2010 01:52:32 PM 1005 Views
Wow Nice one... hats off to RJ *NM* - 17/03/2010 02:37:14 PM 172 Views
I like it *NM* - 17/03/2010 03:14:38 PM 152 Views
Hmmm, I don't think so. I think it may be indicative of his own end, though. - 17/03/2010 05:11:18 PM 449 Views
I don't follow your logic here - 17/03/2010 05:39:24 PM 382 Views
Re: I don't follow your logic here - 17/03/2010 05:46:05 PM 410 Views
Still, this quote doesn't foreshadow Aran'gar's death at all. *NM* - 17/03/2010 06:24:00 PM 157 Views
Re: died sinfully - 18/03/2010 05:31:34 PM 340 Views
Re: died sinfully - 19/03/2010 02:03:14 PM 323 Views
Wait, have I read this passage wrong?? - 17/03/2010 06:07:31 PM 383 Views
No, Aran'gar muses about her own alliances. *NM* - 17/03/2010 06:24:35 PM 152 Views
That was my interpretation as well, when I read it in the book. *NM* - 18/03/2010 09:01:01 PM 135 Views
I agree *NM* - 17/03/2010 06:22:48 PM 146 Views
I don't really see "my fellow bad guys are going to die" as being terribly prophetic - 17/03/2010 06:24:32 PM 370 Views
As said... - 17/03/2010 06:26:15 PM 377 Views
Arangar's allies die because she kills them, not because of some random twists of fate... - 17/03/2010 08:18:24 PM 388 Views
I disagree... - 17/03/2010 08:50:31 PM 330 Views
If you're referring to the reference to "those who found graves", then it fits most Forsaken deaths - 17/03/2010 09:15:03 PM 333 Views
Aran'gar cynically considers... - 17/03/2010 09:27:34 PM 394 Views
Uh no - 19/03/2010 05:37:22 PM 336 Views
It doesn't fit with Graendal's demise enough to have been hinting at it - 18/03/2010 03:45:35 AM 514 Views
As I explained to others... - 18/03/2010 10:27:17 AM 361 Views
Wow Rand and Min.......RJ = Genius..... *NM* - 18/03/2010 02:57:53 PM 143 Views
Re: As I explained to others... - 18/03/2010 11:08:44 PM 349 Views
Yeah, that is also a good analysis! *NM* - 19/03/2010 10:13:59 AM 316 Views

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