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Lifetime service is fun definition of free. Cannoli Send a noteboard - 15/03/2010 10:46:03 PM

If you are new somewhere and have a chance to learn, you should at least in the first time show that you are really dedicated to your studies and want to achieve your goal. It's the same if you have a new job; if you don't prove that you fit in there in the first months and you even don't seem to care much about your job, you are likely fired by your boss again, even if you are highly intelligent.

And if you are one of a very small number of people capable of doing a particular task, and there is a desperate war kicking off, you don't get a discharge!

It's a privilege to be educated as an AS (for free, by the way), and if a novice openly shows that she is more interested in the Warders than in learning, she simply doesn't fit in. After all, Else's behaviour also wouldn't be a good example for all the other novices, who truly dedicate themselves to study.

So the Tower will have to work a little harder to teach her! And they can punish her pour encourager les autres, as it were. They can even write off her as a potential future sister, but they should be keeping anyone with any inclination and ability to contribute at all.

So, it's ridiculous to blame Siuan for that decision, especially since TG wasn't that imminent at this point.

It WAS, and she knew! She MET with the Dragon Reborn long before she returned to the Tower, bringing the woman to whom she would eventually give the news of Else's departure. If she got rid of Else before she knew the Dragon Reborn was an adult who had started channeling (and therefore had an expiration date), Nynaeve would not have known Else to question her use as a messenger.

Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
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This message last edited by Cannoli on 15/03/2010 at 10:56:38 PM

Edit 1 by Cannoli on 15/03/2010 at 10:56:38 PM

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tryn to remember nigelgoboom - 11/03/2010 02:57:27 PM 1063 Views

The last we heard was that Else was sent away from the WT Etzel - 11/03/2010 03:10:50 PM 612 Views

Actually she WAS able, she was just a skank. Cannoli - 11/03/2010 06:44:16 PM 643 Views

The weaknesses in her character disqualified her as an AS. Etzel - 11/03/2010 06:55:45 PM 774 Views

Re: The weaknesses in her character disqualified her as an AS. Datakim - 11/03/2010 07:26:41 PM 545 Views

I really think the good guys have a realistic chance to win TG even without Else's help..

*NM* Etzel - 11/03/2010 07:52:51 PM 514 Views

Re: I really think the good guys have a realistic chance to win TG even without... Datakim - 11/03/2010 09:43:44 PM 598 Views

Or Else had joined the Shadow, who knows. *NM* Etzel - 11/03/2010 09:52:59 PM 393 Views

Yeah, lucky Siuan headed that off, with her good judgment in people *cough making Sheriam MoN cough* *NM* Cannoli - 11/03/2010 10:11:53 PM 352 Views

I don't argue that everything Siuan did was good... Etzel - 12/03/2010 10:05:17 AM 533 Views

And when Egwene alienates the Dragon Reborn or hastily judges situations she doesn't know..? Cannoli - 11/03/2010 10:09:56 PM 715 Views

Granted this was a stupid move... fionwe1987 - 12/03/2010 12:25:37 AM 513 Views

I didn't say she would have done right - she got Siuan out of the way, though. *NM* Cannoli - 12/03/2010 12:55:19 AM 448 Views

That is as useful as inviting Ishaemal to be Amyrlin in place of a Black sister. *NM* fionwe1987 - 12/03/2010 06:43:24 AM 322 Views

The point is... Etzel - 12/03/2010 09:46:48 AM 579 Views

Lifetime service is fun definition of free. Cannoli - 15/03/2010 10:46:03 PM 676 Views

Again... Etzel - 16/03/2010 01:39:45 PM 669 Views

Except with channelers, they don't need to care. Cannoli - 16/03/2010 06:10:54 PM 683 Views

This is just silly Etzel - 16/03/2010 07:09:35 PM 634 Views

You're the one who is silly if you think the One Power can only be useful if channeled by a sister Cannoli - 16/03/2010 11:36:31 PM 655 Views

It's simply the fact... Etzel - 17/03/2010 10:52:03 AM 600 Views

Bah! fionwe1987 - 17/03/2010 10:32:49 PM 612 Views

As far as we know... Etzel - 18/03/2010 09:58:14 AM 665 Views

The decision to send Else away would've been Sheriam's, too. Else was her responsibility, after all Lordling - 11/03/2010 08:18:49 PM 518 Views

Re: tryn to remember Evil_Monkey - 12/03/2010 03:50:12 AM 517 Views

I doubt it Gaidal Craig - 12/03/2010 08:55:54 AM 783 Views

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<quote id="88055">If you are new somewhere and have a chance to learn, you should <i> at least </i> in the first time show that you are really dedicated to your studies and want to achieve your goal. It's the same if you have a new job; if you don't prove that you fit in there in the first months and you even don't seem to care much about your job, you are likely fired by your boss again, even if you are highly intelligent. </quote> And if you are one of a very small number of people capable of doing a particular task, and there is a desperate war kicking off, you don't get a discharge!

<quote>It's a privilege to be educated as an AS (for free, by the way), and if a novice openly shows that she is more interested in the Warders than in learning, she simply doesn't fit in. After all, Else's behaviour also wouldn't be a good example for all the other novices, who truly dedicate themselves to study.</quote> So the Tower will have to work a little harder to teach her!  And they can punish her <i>pour encourager les autres</i>, as it were.  They can even write off her as a potential future sister, but they should be keeping anyone with any inclination and ability to contribute at all.

<quote>So, it's ridiculous to blame Siuan for that decision, especially since TG wasn't that imminent at this point.</quote>

It WAS, and she knew! She MET with the Dragon Reborn long before she returned to the Tower, bringing the woman to whom she would eventually give the news of Else's departure.  If she got rid of Else before she knew the Dragon Reborn was an adult who had started channeling (and therefore had an expiration date), Nynaeve would not have known Else to question her use as a messenger.
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