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No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM
All of the things you mentioned are Elaida's actions. Many if not most AS are horrified at many of them. I've already agreed with you that she's a bad ruler. That's why approximately 1/3 of all the AS are actively trying to depose her. So if you are going to say Elaida is superfluous to fighting the Shadow, I'd agree with you. She is as dangerous a meglomaniac as Valda the Whitecloak is.

NaCl(and I hope she has a similar fate)H2O
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous beetnemesis - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1248 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... vandevere - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 834 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* Bryce - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 507 Views
That is the inspiration for the Aes Sedai that RJ used - I can't find the article, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 02:39:14 PM 784 Views
When I was reading this I was thinking of the paralells between the white tower and Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:47:33 AM 986 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 855 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. Corwin - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 818 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 788 Views
Re: Really? Corwin - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 747 Views
So lets add a few more NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 751 Views
most of these are accounted for above ranagrande - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 815 Views
Just because we don't know all their names, doesn't mean their effectiveness on the Pattern was less RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 03:19:41 PM 807 Views
But who did the work? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 655 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 676 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 696 Views
Actually I think that's his point ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 787 Views
Spot-on beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 604 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 643 Views
Re: But who did the work? ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 730 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 748 Views
well, yeah ranagrande - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 774 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. fionwe1987 - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 679 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 674 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 639 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 678 Views
I'm not convinced that it does ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 776 Views
I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 698 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 748 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 684 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 900 Views
Re: I don't understand your point NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 671 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 682 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 623 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 701 Views
No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 632 Views
You just made our point... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 710 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 610 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 733 Views
WT has been THE single greatest force for stagancy and lack of development. Lohikaarme - 09/09/2009 08:58:58 AM 643 Views
Like I said earlier the AS are superfluous except the ones who aren't superfluous. NaClH2O - 09/09/2009 11:55:47 AM 726 Views
To a certain extent ajsr1982 - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 868 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 706 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 819 Views
Without the Tower Voscaia Sedai - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 616 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. nossy - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 656 Views
Agrees with Nossy NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 952 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 624 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 975 Views
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