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No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O Send a noteboard - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM
All of the things you mentioned are Elaida's actions. Many if not most AS are horrified at many of them. I've already agreed with you that she's a bad ruler. That's why approximately 1/3 of all the AS are actively trying to depose her. So if you are going to say Elaida is superfluous to fighting the Shadow, I'd agree with you. She is as dangerous a meglomaniac as Valda the Whitecloak is.

NaCl(and I hope she has a similar fate)H2O
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You know... it feels like the Aes Sedai are pretty superflouous beetnemesis - 02/09/2009 09:48:19 PM 1237 Views
Y'know, the paralells betwen the Aes Sedai in the White Tower... vandevere - 02/09/2009 10:46:29 PM 828 Views
Well said. Hadn't really thought of it that way before *NM* Bryce - 03/09/2009 12:01:30 AM 505 Views
That is the inspiration for the Aes Sedai that RJ used - I can't find the article, though. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 02:39:14 PM 776 Views
When I was reading this I was thinking of the paralells between the white tower and Tashmere - 03/09/2009 02:47:33 AM 977 Views
And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 03:37:14 AM 846 Views
Re: And yet the WT has been THE single greatest force for continuity and civilization. Corwin - 03/09/2009 05:46:13 AM 807 Views
Really? fionwe1987 - 03/09/2009 05:52:38 AM 779 Views
Re: Really? Corwin - 03/09/2009 06:03:13 AM 738 Views
So lets add a few more NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 11:42:48 AM 745 Views
most of these are accounted for above ranagrande - 03/09/2009 02:18:01 PM 808 Views
Just because we don't know all their names, doesn't mean their effectiveness on the Pattern was less RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/09/2009 03:19:41 PM 792 Views
But who did the work? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 05:37:00 PM 643 Views
While these are good, none of it is because of the White Tower beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:43:56 PM 665 Views
So if Elaida didn't order it, it doesn't count? NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 07:29:20 PM 687 Views
Actually I think that's his point ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:40:37 PM 776 Views
Spot-on beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 08:56:30 PM 594 Views
Re: Actually I think that's his point NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:17:25 AM 634 Views
Re: But who did the work? ranagrande - 04/09/2009 01:32:19 PM 714 Views
Only one point because obviously your mind is made up. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 06:13:23 AM 740 Views
well, yeah ranagrande - 05/09/2009 02:33:51 PM 765 Views
In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. fionwe1987 - 05/09/2009 03:03:07 PM 671 Views
Re: In that case, Rand, Mat, Perrin... all of them are superfluous. NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 04:57:44 PM 665 Views
No, fionwe1987 is absolutely right! ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:13:39 PM 630 Views
I'm glad the real world disagrees with you NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 05:05:50 PM 670 Views
I'm not convinced that it does ranagrande - 05/09/2009 05:44:10 PM 768 Views
I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 04:25:22 PM 689 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 03/09/2009 09:09:38 PM 738 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Sidious - 03/09/2009 09:23:53 PM 674 Views
Re: I don't understand your point Corwin - 05/09/2009 09:02:47 AM 892 Views
Re: I don't understand your point NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 09:49:58 PM 661 Views
I was talking about the WT specifically, and only during recent years. It's Gotta be the Shadow, beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:39:11 PM 672 Views
So what you are really saying is that if you ignore over 2/3rds of the AS the rest aren't doing much NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 06:07:23 PM 614 Views
I'm talking about the organization as a whole beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 10:07:37 PM 691 Views
No you are talking about Elaida NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:32:59 PM 619 Views
You just made our point... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 12:49:44 AM 699 Views
Well, because most of her actions infringe on that "bubble" beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:00:52 PM 601 Views
Not at all... fionwe1987 - 04/09/2009 09:23:09 PM 724 Views
WT has been THE single greatest force for stagancy and lack of development. Lohikaarme - 09/09/2009 08:58:58 AM 633 Views
Like I said earlier the AS are superfluous except the ones who aren't superfluous. NaClH2O - 09/09/2009 11:55:47 AM 714 Views
To a certain extent ajsr1982 - 03/09/2009 11:33:30 AM 858 Views
Definitely. And Egwene is in denial. beetnemesis - 03/09/2009 05:53:14 PM 694 Views
Some pretty big blanket statements NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:24:50 PM 809 Views
Without the Tower Voscaia Sedai - 03/09/2009 02:05:09 PM 603 Views
Actually, I think Verin is a good metaphor here. nossy - 03/09/2009 07:59:46 PM 647 Views
Agrees with Nossy NaClH2O - 03/09/2009 10:44:06 PM 944 Views
That's mostly what I was trying to say beetnemesis - 04/09/2009 09:03:52 PM 617 Views
Re: That's mostly what I was trying to say NaClH2O - 05/09/2009 03:33:46 AM 963 Views
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