You're still saying the same thing, only using a more palatable example. If there is no other way to obtain that sandwich, and given that having a sandwich is presumably better than not having a sandwich, especially if you're hungry, then the fact that the only way for him to obtain that sandwich was through war means that the war is justified, because he must do it to retrieve his sandwich.
The point is exactly what you said: there is no compelling reason for a war over a sandwich. But thanks to this line, you don't need one, the war justifies itself.
Of course, Lan is using it for a specific example where the lengths to which the Shadow are willing to go to in order to capture Rand, Mat and Perrin demonstrates that it is necessary to keep them out of the Shadow's hands. If the Shadow wants something that badly, then obviously the Light needs to keep it out of their hands.
But the problem is that he phrases that sentence as a general rule, not a specific case. And once you extrapolate what exactly such a rule entails, it's core insanity is revealed.
The point is exactly what you said: there is no compelling reason for a war over a sandwich. But thanks to this line, you don't need one, the war justifies itself.
Of course, Lan is using it for a specific example where the lengths to which the Shadow are willing to go to in order to capture Rand, Mat and Perrin demonstrates that it is necessary to keep them out of the Shadow's hands. If the Shadow wants something that badly, then obviously the Light needs to keep it out of their hands.
But the problem is that he phrases that sentence as a general rule, not a specific case. And once you extrapolate what exactly such a rule entails, it's core insanity is revealed.
That is one of the stupidest straw-man arguments I have seen. Exactly why is there only one sandwich, and why does someone want just that one sandwich? Why not have some pizza?
The point is, in any hypothetical war over a sandwich, there is no "must". There is no compulsion to pay the price, and hence the sandwich is not worth a war.
What were your biggest "WTF?" moments?
24/02/2010 05:17:21 AM
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24/02/2010 07:29:39 AM
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I don't think you got what he said...
24/02/2010 03:03:19 PM
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Yes. If you need to take a bullet to the leg to avoid a bullet to the head
24/02/2010 03:10:00 PM
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Can't agree with that.
24/02/2010 05:33:01 PM
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Re: Can't agree with that.
24/02/2010 06:40:24 PM
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But in Aviendha's case...
24/02/2010 08:10:55 PM
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So this is the last sandwhich?
24/02/2010 11:43:37 PM
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Your argument is irrelevant.
24/02/2010 11:58:45 PM
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No it isn't...
25/02/2010 05:23:58 PM
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Re: No it isn't...
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25/02/2010 07:48:54 PM
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I don't get these
24/02/2010 03:18:44 PM
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These were I found surprising/confusing on my first read
24/02/2010 03:52:12 PM
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If you think her "Magic Tight Rope Dancing Skills" were confusing
24/02/2010 04:05:18 PM
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Indeed. I've learned a bit of juggling too (from same person)
24/02/2010 04:19:40 PM
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Another from Mat:
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