Yes, Rand has some people working for him. He doesn't respect them or treat them with respect, and till date, has shown hardly any trust in them.
Darlin and Caroline rule Tear and Carhien. Ruharc leads the Aiel. Logain is his primary (well, only) contact regarding the BT. Bashere is in charge of the Saldeans. Elayne was left alone in Andor to rule without interference.
While he has displayed temper towards them (as a result of a legitimate trauma), he still trusts them with enormous responsibility. More than that, he asks their advice on many occasions, and uses it. Bashere's military advice, Elayne's political advice, Nynaeve's more moral advice in TGS as well. What he has done is surround himself with trustworthy people, and it took a massive Forsaken plot, plus the folly of Cadsuane (whom let us not forget is a key member of an order who kidnapped Rand, beat and tortured him, and then beat Min in front of him while he was helpless) in order to breach that trust. And even that only lasted days, or a couple of weeks at most.
Egwene's loyal followers include Silviana, Siuan, Leane and maybe Saerin, Seanie and that lot too.
Oh, so you mean Siuan, who by Egwene's own logic should still be Amyrlin, or Saerin, whom Egwene KNOWS was incredibly capable and yet still ignores (after all, Saerin couldn't possibly be better than her - she never even considers it). Seane and the other BA hunters are treated like dirt, no respect for their life-risking mission, instead Egwene has a tantrum because they made spies swear Oaths (of course, the fact that Egwene did the same never crosses her mind). Leane is like a lost puppy that is forced to side with Egwene because nobody else will side with her, as is Siuan.
But Egwene gets angry at Siuan, her "loyal follower", not to mention friend and mentor, and rightful leader, because Siuan saves her life.
If alarm bells aren't ringing at that point, then I don't know WHAT to think.
I was wrong about Egwene.
06/02/2010 09:46:43 AM
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BTW, I am the god of Irony. Bow to me. *NM*
06/02/2010 09:47:20 AM
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I think that if there's a real message to take out of this
06/02/2010 02:55:47 PM
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yes she's politically shrewd if completely amoral
06/02/2010 05:03:19 PM
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06/02/2010 06:08:40 PM
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In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
06/02/2010 11:28:37 PM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
06/02/2010 11:47:04 PM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
07/02/2010 02:43:13 AM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
07/02/2010 11:13:39 PM
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It really is her most defining quality
06/02/2010 06:27:17 PM
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That was nothing.
06/02/2010 08:48:39 PM
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The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time
06/02/2010 11:34:45 PM
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Re: The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time
06/02/2010 11:51:48 PM
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There was a nice beginning - "Cannoli: I was wrong about Egwene"...
06/02/2010 06:42:18 PM
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A point to understand about Egwene as a ruler... (Incoming wall'o'text...
07/02/2010 06:43:43 PM
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Sure, way to convince me. Compare her to two of the most despicable Anglophonic rulers in history
08/02/2010 05:18:55 AM
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I like Egwene.
08/02/2010 10:22:14 AM
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And the greater good always conveniently requires her being in charge or getting more power *NM*
12/02/2010 12:19:05 AM
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Yes, just like for Rand. *NM*
12/02/2010 12:24:57 AM
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Re: Rand goes out of his way to discarge authority to others; Egwene, well hopefully in the future *NM*
13/02/2010 04:20:31 AM
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Ummm... what? When? *NM*
13/02/2010 04:53:50 AM
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Like his Stewards & supporting loyal rulers. *NM*
15/02/2010 02:30:32 PM
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Darlin, Caroline, Elayne, Ituralde, Bashere, Logain, Rhuarc, etc.
15/02/2010 05:57:05 PM
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Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches? *NM*
15/02/2010 06:10:17 PM
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Re: Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches?
16/02/2010 08:10:02 PM
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Well, Egwene has lackeys too!
15/02/2010 08:12:17 PM
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Re: Well, Egwene has lackeys too!
15/02/2010 10:37:50 PM
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And she does not delegate to them. And no, sorting out rank among minions is not delegating power
15/02/2010 11:00:03 PM
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Rand can certainly be domineering, but nowhere near as much as Egwene.
13/02/2010 06:31:15 AM
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right, because she's threatened to hang people who disobey, or bodily thrown people out of her rooms
15/02/2010 06:11:18 PM
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She's in a different environment. What serious challenge has she faced?
15/02/2010 06:54:53 PM
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people like her in real life are not likeable, but they are necessary in society.
08/02/2010 09:55:35 PM
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