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right, because she's threatened to hang people who disobey, or bodily thrown people out of her rooms darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 15/02/2010 06:11:18 PM
But mostly, Rand's challenges are pretty huge (Forsaken, wars and the DO), whereas Egwene has basically tricked a bunch of old ladies. To her credit, I think she's been doing the right thing, but RJ and Sanderson just made her struggle too easy (mentally and emotionally that is: because she more or less ignores pain, it doesn't appear so severe. She never went through quite as much as Rand did, though her time in the cramped prison cell was good in that regard).

To be precise, I felt a bit like her struggle was forced into a weaker parallel of Rand's. Personal pain and torment, gathering allies, overthrowing the corrupt rulers, and applying her own sense of justice to situations rather than following the letter of the law.

I did love Elaida's character, she was well written as far as insane rulers go. Reminded me of Denethor from LotR, too strong to bend to the Shadow but too inflexible and weak to see how to effectively fight it.


Or forced her followers to change the fundamentals of their society to suit her needs.
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There was a nice beginning - "Cannoli: I was wrong about Egwene"... - 06/02/2010 06:42:18 PM 678 Views
I think the title summarizes years of debate *NM* - 07/02/2010 09:26:35 AM 511 Views
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And the rest of the Randland Justice League. *NM* - 12/02/2010 05:25:38 PM 262 Views
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Ummm... what? When? *NM* - 13/02/2010 04:53:50 AM 251 Views
Like his Stewards & supporting loyal rulers. *NM* - 15/02/2010 02:30:32 PM 291 Views
Darlin, Caroline, Elayne, Ituralde, Bashere, Logain, Rhuarc, etc. - 15/02/2010 05:57:05 PM 752 Views
Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches? *NM* - 15/02/2010 06:10:17 PM 377 Views
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Agreed, that's what I've been saying. - 16/02/2010 08:23:14 PM 644 Views
Well, Egwene has lackeys too! - 15/02/2010 08:12:17 PM 560 Views
Re: Well, Egwene has lackeys too! - 15/02/2010 10:37:50 PM 538 Views
Rand can certainly be domineering, but nowhere near as much as Egwene. - 13/02/2010 06:31:15 AM 755 Views
right, because she's threatened to hang people who disobey, or bodily thrown people out of her rooms - 15/02/2010 06:11:18 PM 558 Views
She's in a different environment. What serious challenge has she faced? - 15/02/2010 06:54:53 PM 575 Views
Yup, hopefully she'll be killed, then stilled. - 13/02/2010 11:03:51 PM 537 Views

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