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Rand can certainly be domineering, but nowhere near as much as Egwene. Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 13/02/2010 06:31:15 AM
But mostly, Rand's challenges are pretty huge (Forsaken, wars and the DO), whereas Egwene has basically tricked a bunch of old ladies. To her credit, I think she's been doing the right thing, but RJ and Sanderson just made her struggle too easy (mentally and emotionally that is: because she more or less ignores pain, it doesn't appear so severe. She never went through quite as much as Rand did, though her time in the cramped prison cell was good in that regard).

To be precise, I felt a bit like her struggle was forced into a weaker parallel of Rand's. Personal pain and torment, gathering allies, overthrowing the corrupt rulers, and applying her own sense of justice to situations rather than following the letter of the law.

I did love Elaida's character, she was well written as far as insane rulers go. Reminded me of Denethor from LotR, too strong to bend to the Shadow but too inflexible and weak to see how to effectively fight it.
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That was nothing. - 06/02/2010 08:48:39 PM 685 Views
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Re: The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time - 06/02/2010 11:51:48 PM 686 Views
Hah! - 07/02/2010 02:22:30 PM 675 Views
There was a nice beginning - "Cannoli: I was wrong about Egwene"... - 06/02/2010 06:42:18 PM 743 Views
I think the title summarizes years of debate *NM* - 07/02/2010 09:26:35 AM 535 Views
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Yes, just like for Rand. *NM* - 12/02/2010 12:24:57 AM 283 Views
And the rest of the Randland Justice League. *NM* - 12/02/2010 05:25:38 PM 289 Views
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Ummm... what? When? *NM* - 13/02/2010 04:53:50 AM 277 Views
Like his Stewards & supporting loyal rulers. *NM* - 15/02/2010 02:30:32 PM 316 Views
Darlin, Caroline, Elayne, Ituralde, Bashere, Logain, Rhuarc, etc. - 15/02/2010 05:57:05 PM 819 Views
Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches? *NM* - 15/02/2010 06:10:17 PM 391 Views
Re: Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches? - 16/02/2010 08:10:02 PM 687 Views
Agreed, that's what I've been saying. - 16/02/2010 08:23:14 PM 718 Views
Well, Egwene has lackeys too! - 15/02/2010 08:12:17 PM 595 Views
Re: Well, Egwene has lackeys too! - 15/02/2010 10:37:50 PM 580 Views
Rand can certainly be domineering, but nowhere near as much as Egwene. - 13/02/2010 06:31:15 AM 818 Views
Yup, hopefully she'll be killed, then stilled. - 13/02/2010 11:03:51 PM 604 Views

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