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Re: The point was that Rand needed the division. Watcher Send a noteboard - 07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM
Rand would not be where he was today if the Tower had not split. In the first few books only a very few Aes Sedai knew what he was and who he was. At the end of TGH he was starting to become known but he had not gathered a large army around him so the Aes Sedai as a whole could not move to either sever him or control him.

Next he finally takes control of a nation in Tear but before any organised expedition can be sent from Tar Valon he had gone to the Waste. As far as the Aes Sedai are converned he has dropped off the radar. Then the Tower splits just in time to allow Rand to return to the Westlands.

Had the Tower not split one of two things would have happened. Siuan would have kept control but would have been under extreme pressure from the Hall and the Ajah's to get Rand under control. As far as I can recall she was all for controling him anyway. It was Moiraine who realised Rand needed to run free. Option 2 is that Siuan is overthrown and the Tower rally behind the new leader who will move heaven and earth to get control of Rand. Its not hard to see a force of 300 or 400 Aes Sedai being sent to bring Rand in and at this point the Aiel would not be too keen on fighting Aes Sedai.

Rand would very quickly have ended up at best with a committee of Aes Sedai advisors telling him what to do, what to say and when to say it or at worse he would find very nice and very well guarded guest quarters in Tar Valon. There certainly would be no Black Tower, no Asha'man, no cleansing of the Taint etc.

I don't think its a conincidence that the Tower is only reunited at a point in time where Rand and the forces he commands is now more powerful that the combined Aes Sedai. The only groups that can challenge him are the Seanchan and the Shadow.
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So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? - 07/02/2010 04:41:58 AM 1853 Views
I think the breaking of the tower was.... - 07/02/2010 07:55:48 AM 801 Views
Nice idea, that does seem to make sense in hindsight. - 07/02/2010 06:18:35 PM 595 Views
Yes, but that isn't the point. - 08/02/2010 04:14:32 AM 681 Views
Re: Yes, but that isn't the point. - 08/02/2010 04:40:52 AM 664 Views
YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 08/02/2010 04:55:46 AM 588 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 08/02/2010 02:43:48 PM 689 Views
Re: YES!! The SPLIT is important. So why is ENDING the split such a necessary goal? - 10/02/2010 09:49:59 PM 656 Views
Re: the wise ones. - 13/02/2010 10:21:55 AM 499 Views
They're not the biggest clan... - 13/02/2010 02:20:38 PM 625 Views
Thank you - 15/02/2010 01:24:05 PM 698 Views
No problem. *NM* - 15/02/2010 09:05:11 PM 247 Views
Re: So what was the point of the White Tower struggle? - 07/02/2010 06:14:31 PM 701 Views
Re: The point was that Rand needed the division. - 07/02/2010 08:34:10 PM 649 Views
small disagreement - 07/02/2010 08:42:07 PM 591 Views
Re: small disagreement - 08/02/2010 04:37:03 AM 524 Views
Egwene and Siuan have noted that there are plenty of the new Novices - 15/02/2010 04:22:35 PM 594 Views
For that matter, what is the point of Andor? - 08/02/2010 06:08:32 AM 648 Views
Re: For that matter, what is the point of Andor? - 08/02/2010 03:38:54 PM 596 Views
Especially true if - 08/02/2010 07:16:04 PM 559 Views
But Tar Valon is critical too. - 08/02/2010 07:41:43 PM 611 Views
Really? - 10/02/2010 05:30:02 AM 525 Views
Three women in a boat... - 10/02/2010 09:12:41 PM 573 Views
Nothing is ever given as a location for that boat that I recall. - 11/02/2010 11:54:39 PM 515 Views
So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 10/02/2010 10:13:56 PM 649 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 12/02/2010 12:43:19 AM 693 Views
In this, I agree with Fionwe. - 13/02/2010 10:31:07 AM 536 Views
Re: So what? This is more or less true, but it has zero relevance to the issue of the Tower. - 15/02/2010 02:23:57 PM 679 Views
Some good points, but I still disagree. - 15/02/2010 06:30:50 PM 583 Views
- 15/02/2010 10:08:48 PM 655 Views
my thoughts - 09/02/2010 12:58:30 PM 758 Views
Belief and order give strength. - 10/02/2010 11:20:01 PM 590 Views
To pad the last few books in order to make Egwene the Amyrlin. - 17/02/2010 05:25:22 PM 550 Views
I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". - 17/02/2010 06:07:25 PM 516 Views
Re: I can't say I agree with the use of the term "padding". - 22/02/2010 11:05:44 PM 579 Views
To unite the Tower under competent leadership, of course. - 23/02/2010 04:55:02 AM 1031 Views
Does a main plotline HAVE to help defeat the DO? - 26/02/2010 04:11:30 PM 699 Views

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