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Re: Yes, really Lord Haart Send a noteboard - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM
Why use both? Because they both have their place in battle, despite their complexity.

Blossoms of fire too close would hurt Rand + Party. Arrows of Fire are good for picking out those Trollocs that escape the Blossoms.

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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) Yondaime - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2698 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1432 Views
There there Yondaime - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1348 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1216 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1280 Views
I agree he was much better than before darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1195 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Jeordam - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1335 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. Gerbeaud - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1275 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating Yondaime - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1293 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1194 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1206 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1307 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1160 Views
Again, what? When? Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1174 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1144 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 850 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat imlad - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1421 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1111 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better BlackAdder - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1234 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) MissKoalaVB - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1333 Views
Yondaime - 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 1050 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1332 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1291 Views
I agree. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1243 Views
Re: I agree. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1458 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. Lord Haart - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1332 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1270 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1206 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1255 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass Datakim - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 1809 Views
Totally agree. *NM* Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1239 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1237 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test Datakim - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1148 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1237 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 1052 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 941 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1171 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1247 Views
Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM 1125 Views
Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way. darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM 1234 Views
Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is. Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM 1093 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 759 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* Sidious - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 810 Views
of course it does darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1220 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1140 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1212 Views
That's nonsensical. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1216 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1123 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1139 Views
*shrugs* darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1135 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: Fanatic-Templar - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1135 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1118 Views
Right... Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 1064 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1220 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways Datakim - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1095 Views
Can you provide that quote? darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1186 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1190 Views
Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM 1164 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1111 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1170 Views
Not really darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1196 Views
Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1209 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1091 Views
Re: Yes, really Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1094 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1137 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1131 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1123 Views
Re: Yes, really Datakim - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 1077 Views
Re: Yes, really Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1138 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM 1091 Views
1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM 1185 Views
Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM* Datakim - 06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM 731 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1126 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1277 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1163 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1093 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1218 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1203 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples Sidious - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1118 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1209 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien Sidious - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1117 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1215 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 1052 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 1054 Views
... but I can't let this one go... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1290 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1292 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan Sidious - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1083 Views
Hmm... Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1120 Views
if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM 1199 Views
i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM* Sidious - 07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM 1128 Views
Re: i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM 1160 Views
Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken? How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch? Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM 1085 Views
I disagree Kieran - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1091 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1119 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear Kieran - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1124 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1121 Views
lol Kieran - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1148 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1201 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1144 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 1062 Views
Exactly my point darius_sedai - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 1077 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2361 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1193 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1178 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... Lord Haart - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1107 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 961 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... Datakim - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1116 Views
Nope darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1158 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1310 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other Elvira_Sedai - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1247 Views
but whoever wins fistofpainx - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1179 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... Yondaime - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1240 Views
I actually think Lan would win darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1182 Views
Agreed Myrdhyn - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1147 Views
If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM* darius_sedai - 05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM 644 Views
I think Lan, hands down. Skeeve the Great - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 1048 Views
THANK you. Cannoli - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9681 Views
Re: THANK you. Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1154 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough Sidious - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1325 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 1026 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) Elvira_Sedai - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1206 Views
You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring. amirebram - 05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM 1022 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* NaClH2O - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 745 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 716 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Etzel - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1200 Views
That can't be right, can it? BlackAdder - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1185 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan darius_sedai - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1237 Views
Huh .... Yondaime - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1189 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1176 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much Yondaime - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1140 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... Gerbeaud - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1150 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* Lord Haart - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 738 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? Skeeve the Great - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1172 Views
These are pointless. Heiko - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1209 Views
These are scalar comparatives JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1166 Views
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