Re: The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time
Cannoli Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 11:51:48 PM
"I love you, even though I've been obsessed with your half-brother for the last year" was terrible, but at least she wasn't pretending to love someone else when she decided to switch.
You forgot part. It SHOULD read "I love you, even though I've been obsessed with your half-brother for the last year, and HAVE NEVER SPOKEN A WORD DIRECTLY TO YOU, or even registered any awareness of your presence* and please don't read anything into the fact that I am conveniently asking you to forgo vengeance for your mother against my ex and also take the enormous risk of betraying your Aes Sedai employers. I DO love you! Honest! It is not at all as if I am using you."
Actually, the sad thing is, she does. Usefulness to her ambitions IS what Egwene prizes most of all. Gawyn's utility is what swayed her. She persuaded herself to fall in love with Rand, because of his unique family situation - if she had married him, she would have been the matriarch of the al'Thor family, and in the eyes of the Women's Circle, the supreme authority over their household. Egwene LOATHES being under anyone else's authority, and chafes, rebels and disobeys at every opportunity, no matter how willingly she accepts their authority. If she married the typical man her age, she would have moved into a house with a large extended family, and continued her lifelong experience of being the low woman on the totem pole, only instead of the coddled youngest daughter, she would be the new interloper to her mother-, sisters-, aunts-, grandmothers- & cousins-in-law. By marrying Rand she would become Captain her first day on board the ship, rather than starting out as Ensign Redshirt. She later admits to herself that she only thought she loved him, so plainly she did not at the time. She fell in love with him for the escape and power marrying him offered her. Just as she fell in love with Gawyn when she realized she had this pre-whipped idiot who would do anything for her.
* Actually, events prove that a scenario like this is pretty much the ultimate aphrodesiac for a Trakand.
Cannoli
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
“Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.” GK Chesteron
Inde muagdhe Aes Sedai misain ye!
Deus Vult!
*MySmiley*
I was wrong about Egwene.
06/02/2010 09:46:43 AM
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BTW, I am the god of Irony. Bow to me. *NM*
06/02/2010 09:47:20 AM
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I think that if there's a real message to take out of this
06/02/2010 02:55:47 PM
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yes she's politically shrewd if completely amoral
06/02/2010 05:03:19 PM
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Re: yes she's politically shrewd if completely amoral
06/02/2010 06:08:40 PM
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In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
06/02/2010 11:28:37 PM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
06/02/2010 11:47:04 PM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
07/02/2010 02:43:13 AM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
07/02/2010 11:13:39 PM
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It really is her most defining quality
06/02/2010 06:27:17 PM
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That was nothing.
06/02/2010 08:48:39 PM
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The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time
06/02/2010 11:34:45 PM
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Re: The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time
06/02/2010 11:51:48 PM
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There was a nice beginning - "Cannoli: I was wrong about Egwene"...
06/02/2010 06:42:18 PM
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A point to understand about Egwene as a ruler... (Incoming wall'o'text...
07/02/2010 06:43:43 PM
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Sure, way to convince me. Compare her to two of the most despicable Anglophonic rulers in history
08/02/2010 05:18:55 AM
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I like Egwene.
08/02/2010 10:22:14 AM
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And the greater good always conveniently requires her being in charge or getting more power *NM*
12/02/2010 12:19:05 AM
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Yes, just like for Rand. *NM*
12/02/2010 12:24:57 AM
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Re: Rand goes out of his way to discarge authority to others; Egwene, well hopefully in the future *NM*
13/02/2010 04:20:31 AM
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Ummm... what? When? *NM*
13/02/2010 04:53:50 AM
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Like his Stewards & supporting loyal rulers. *NM*
15/02/2010 02:30:32 PM
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Darlin, Caroline, Elayne, Ituralde, Bashere, Logain, Rhuarc, etc.
15/02/2010 05:57:05 PM
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Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches? *NM*
15/02/2010 06:10:17 PM
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Re: Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches?
16/02/2010 08:10:02 PM
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Well, Egwene has lackeys too!
15/02/2010 08:12:17 PM
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Re: Well, Egwene has lackeys too!
15/02/2010 10:37:50 PM
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And she does not delegate to them. And no, sorting out rank among minions is not delegating power
15/02/2010 11:00:03 PM
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Rand can certainly be domineering, but nowhere near as much as Egwene.
13/02/2010 06:31:15 AM
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right, because she's threatened to hang people who disobey, or bodily thrown people out of her rooms
15/02/2010 06:11:18 PM
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She's in a different environment. What serious challenge has she faced?
15/02/2010 06:54:53 PM
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people like her in real life are not likeable, but they are necessary in society.
08/02/2010 09:55:35 PM
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