Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
Datakim Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 11:47:04 PM
How can she? Even if he doesn't bother to shield his dreams, he is a warder twice over and thus protected, so she cannot contact him that way. She has no idea of where he is (and she did ask Aviendha after all) and no way of finding out reliably. Elayne is much better informed in that regard but she is restrained from getting in touch with him by practical considerations such as Aviendha mentions in the beginning of CoT when they first feel the Cleansing. If his own baby-momma can't relay information to him (as for example, the fact that she now has that particular relationship to him), how is Egwene supposed to?
Whats to stop Egwene from traveling to Elayne and using her bond with Rand to track him down? I thought that the reason Elayne and Aviendha did not travel to the cleansing, was because they were worried that Rand would think they were attacking and strike at them. And Aviendha was correct in this.
However that would hardly apply in a normal situation where Rand&Co are not performing a huge channeling task and expecting attack from the forsaken. There might be wards to detect "unauthorised" traveling around Rands camp, but I very much doubt the first reaction of the AS/Asha'man would be to attack in a peacefull situation. Especially once they see its a pregnant woman.
Or what about using Need? I cannot see much more important than "Needing" to find Rand to warn him about black ajah that could assassinate him at any moment. Egwene is skilled in dreaming and could locate Rand's position that way. Or she could try and contact Nynaeve's dreams and warn her, since she knows that Nynaeve is with Rand. She has done that before.
Or what abou the wise ones? Egwene could contact them and they could warn Rand. Elayne knows that the Aiel (including the WO) left to join Rand afterall. Or Egwene could find the dreams of other of Rand's allies such as Bashere or such and transmit a message that way.
Egwene could easily contact Rand with just a little time and effort, if she thought it worth it. But apparently she does not consider warning the Dragon Reborn important.
I was wrong about Egwene.
06/02/2010 09:46:43 AM
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BTW, I am the god of Irony. Bow to me. *NM*
06/02/2010 09:47:20 AM
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I think that if there's a real message to take out of this
06/02/2010 02:55:47 PM
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yes she's politically shrewd if completely amoral
06/02/2010 05:03:19 PM
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Re: yes she's politically shrewd if completely amoral
06/02/2010 06:08:40 PM
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In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
06/02/2010 11:28:37 PM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
06/02/2010 11:47:04 PM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
07/02/2010 02:43:13 AM
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Re: In her defense, she has no way of getting in contact with him
07/02/2010 11:13:39 PM
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It really is her most defining quality
06/02/2010 06:27:17 PM
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That was nothing.
06/02/2010 08:48:39 PM
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The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time
06/02/2010 11:34:45 PM
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Re: The only mitigating factor was that she had already dumped Rand at that time
06/02/2010 11:51:48 PM
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There was a nice beginning - "Cannoli: I was wrong about Egwene"...
06/02/2010 06:42:18 PM
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A point to understand about Egwene as a ruler... (Incoming wall'o'text...
07/02/2010 06:43:43 PM
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Sure, way to convince me. Compare her to two of the most despicable Anglophonic rulers in history
08/02/2010 05:18:55 AM
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I like Egwene.
08/02/2010 10:22:14 AM
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And the greater good always conveniently requires her being in charge or getting more power *NM*
12/02/2010 12:19:05 AM
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Yes, just like for Rand. *NM*
12/02/2010 12:24:57 AM
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Re: Rand goes out of his way to discarge authority to others; Egwene, well hopefully in the future *NM*
13/02/2010 04:20:31 AM
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Ummm... what? When? *NM*
13/02/2010 04:53:50 AM
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Like his Stewards & supporting loyal rulers. *NM*
15/02/2010 02:30:32 PM
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Darlin, Caroline, Elayne, Ituralde, Bashere, Logain, Rhuarc, etc.
15/02/2010 05:57:05 PM
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Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches? *NM*
15/02/2010 06:10:17 PM
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Re: Oh you mean all those guys he treats like his personal b*tches?
16/02/2010 08:10:02 PM
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Well, Egwene has lackeys too!
15/02/2010 08:12:17 PM
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Re: Well, Egwene has lackeys too!
15/02/2010 10:37:50 PM
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And she does not delegate to them. And no, sorting out rank among minions is not delegating power
15/02/2010 11:00:03 PM
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Rand can certainly be domineering, but nowhere near as much as Egwene.
13/02/2010 06:31:15 AM
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right, because she's threatened to hang people who disobey, or bodily thrown people out of her rooms
15/02/2010 06:11:18 PM
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She's in a different environment. What serious challenge has she faced?
15/02/2010 06:54:53 PM
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people like her in real life are not likeable, but they are necessary in society.
08/02/2010 09:55:35 PM
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