First off, we need to realize that there is no contest at all if Nynaeve has her angreal and ter'angreal. She isn't as unskilled as Alivia, and I doubt if anyone would stand a chance against Nynaeve at that point.
But, assuming Nynaeve and Egwene are going to fight without any additions, the situation isn't simple.
Without any doubt, Nynaeve is a clumsy weaver. Not because she's inherently unskilled but because she never practices and has shown no dedication to improve her skill.
Egwene, on the other hand, is shown to be a master at anything the Aes Sedai can weave, and there are no indications that the secret weaves she got from Moggy give her any trouble at all.
As RJ's statement showed, Egwene would breeze through the Aes Sedai test while Nynaeve, despite greater strength, would not. The test checks for one thing... weaving under pressure, and also using channeling to tackle other obstacles and distractions.
It is clear that Nynaeve will have to rely entirely on her strength for this, and that is going to be tiring. Someone like Egwene or Elayne, with their greater practice and broader knowledge, will not have this problem.
Over and above that, Egwene remains the only person who could make 14 weaves at once. Sure, Rand or someone might match that, but we haven't seen it. Rand says he can make up to 12 weaves at one go, and that is all we have evidence for.
Egwene can make fourteen when under the influence of Forkroot. That says a lot, because the ability to multitask is probably going to be crucial in any battle.
While not the strongest, Egwene has certainly shown to be the most dexterous channeler we've seen.
Therefore, I think she can take Nynaeve on, an in Nynaeve's current unpracticed state, Egwene may have the edge.
But, assuming Nynaeve and Egwene are going to fight without any additions, the situation isn't simple.
Without any doubt, Nynaeve is a clumsy weaver. Not because she's inherently unskilled but because she never practices and has shown no dedication to improve her skill.
Egwene, on the other hand, is shown to be a master at anything the Aes Sedai can weave, and there are no indications that the secret weaves she got from Moggy give her any trouble at all.
As RJ's statement showed, Egwene would breeze through the Aes Sedai test while Nynaeve, despite greater strength, would not. The test checks for one thing... weaving under pressure, and also using channeling to tackle other obstacles and distractions.
It is clear that Nynaeve will have to rely entirely on her strength for this, and that is going to be tiring. Someone like Egwene or Elayne, with their greater practice and broader knowledge, will not have this problem.
Over and above that, Egwene remains the only person who could make 14 weaves at once. Sure, Rand or someone might match that, but we haven't seen it. Rand says he can make up to 12 weaves at one go, and that is all we have evidence for.
Egwene can make fourteen when under the influence of Forkroot. That says a lot, because the ability to multitask is probably going to be crucial in any battle.
While not the strongest, Egwene has certainly shown to be the most dexterous channeler we've seen.
Therefore, I think she can take Nynaeve on, an in Nynaeve's current unpracticed state, Egwene may have the edge.
Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! )
04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM
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Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat*
04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM
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There there
04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM
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Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS.
05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM
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It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win.
04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM
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Gawyn is incredibly irritating
05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM
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No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM
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Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM
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Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true.
05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM
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Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad.
06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM
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Again, what? When?
06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM
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Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland
06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM
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Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM*
06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM
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Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! )
05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM
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Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then.
05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM
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Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass
05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM
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I agree.
05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM
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Re: I agree.
05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM
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You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD.
05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM
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Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD.
05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM
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I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience.
06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM
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Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass
05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM
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yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test
05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM
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Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test
05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM
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That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed
05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM
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she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought!
06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM
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Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS.
06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM
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she passed pretty easily IMO
06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM
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Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way.
07/02/2010 01:40:45 AM
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Re: Just like Be'lal did? And Lanfear's already learned that lesson the hard way.
07/02/2010 01:52:40 AM
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Yes, but choosing the time to attack is part of how good a fighter someone is.
07/02/2010 06:30:55 PM
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The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM*
05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM
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of course it does
06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM
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That's not how it happens in New Spring.
06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM
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that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS)
06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM
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That's nonsensical.
06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM
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It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization"
06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM
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About splitting weaves 14 ways
05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM
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Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways
05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM
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Can you provide that quote?
06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM
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Re: Can you provide that quote?
06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM
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Yup, plus those were complex weaves that may have required multiple flows.
06/02/2010 08:30:52 PM
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there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved.
06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM
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That's the nature on the weaving.
06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM
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Not really
06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM
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Yes, really
06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM
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Re: Yes, really
06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM
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Re: Yes, really
06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM
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Re: Yes, really
07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM
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Re: Yes, really
07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM
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Re: Can you provide that quote?
06/02/2010 10:14:24 PM
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1 Blossom = 1 Weave ... there is nothing to say that each thread requires splitting flows
06/02/2010 10:48:11 PM
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Fine, I used the word weave when I should have used flow. 36 flows to create 12 weaves. *NM*
06/02/2010 10:57:09 PM
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IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill
06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM
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so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia.
06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM
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It's a lone example contested by many other examples
07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM
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the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien
07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM
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Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien
07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM
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from RJs lips to your ears ...
07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM
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Re: from RJs lips to your ears ...
07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM
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Re: from RJs lips to your ears ...
07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM
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... but I can't let this one go...
07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM
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Hmm...
07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM
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if you had points worth responding too I would ... as always you fall back on pretending you are RJ
07/02/2010 11:07:37 PM
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i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you *NM*
07/02/2010 11:11:55 PM
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Re: i.e. I back up my points by using RJ's written words and their validity irritates you
07/02/2010 11:18:49 PM
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Yeah, what's a couple of fights with a Forsaken? How's Egwene without her sa'angreal crutch?
05/02/2010 11:40:13 PM
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I disagree
06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM
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Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear
06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM
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Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear
06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM
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she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing
06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM
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On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM
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Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM
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Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing...
07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM
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but whoever wins
05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM
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*nods* That's cuz ...
05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM
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I actually think Lan would win
05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM
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Agreed
05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM
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If it was for "real" Lan wins, in practice ... Gawyn could be the superior *NM*
05/02/2010 09:43:20 PM
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I think Lan, hands down.
05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM
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THANK you.
05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM
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You forgot that the Warder Matched Lan A LONG time ago. Lan stopped sparring.
05/02/2010 08:42:49 PM
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According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once...
06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM
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Huh ....
06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM
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Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once...
06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM
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If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand?
06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM
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