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On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM
First off, we need to realize that there is no contest at all if Nynaeve has her angreal and ter'angreal. She isn't as unskilled as Alivia, and I doubt if anyone would stand a chance against Nynaeve at that point.

But, assuming Nynaeve and Egwene are going to fight without any additions, the situation isn't simple.

Without any doubt, Nynaeve is a clumsy weaver. Not because she's inherently unskilled but because she never practices and has shown no dedication to improve her skill.

Egwene, on the other hand, is shown to be a master at anything the Aes Sedai can weave, and there are no indications that the secret weaves she got from Moggy give her any trouble at all.

As RJ's statement showed, Egwene would breeze through the Aes Sedai test while Nynaeve, despite greater strength, would not. The test checks for one thing... weaving under pressure, and also using channeling to tackle other obstacles and distractions.

It is clear that Nynaeve will have to rely entirely on her strength for this, and that is going to be tiring. Someone like Egwene or Elayne, with their greater practice and broader knowledge, will not have this problem.

Over and above that, Egwene remains the only person who could make 14 weaves at once. Sure, Rand or someone might match that, but we haven't seen it. Rand says he can make up to 12 weaves at one go, and that is all we have evidence for.

Egwene can make fourteen when under the influence of Forkroot. That says a lot, because the ability to multitask is probably going to be crucial in any battle.

While not the strongest, Egwene has certainly shown to be the most dexterous channeler we've seen.

Therefore, I think she can take Nynaeve on, an in Nynaeve's current unpracticed state, Egwene may have the edge.
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Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 04/02/2010 10:38:01 PM 2702 Views
Gawyn. *chokes back the vomit that rushes up his throat* - 04/02/2010 10:53:37 PM 1436 Views
There there - 04/02/2010 11:15:00 PM 1354 Views
Huh? He was even WORSE in TGS. - 05/02/2010 05:14:16 AM 1220 Views
I dunno. He actaully DID stuff this time - 05/02/2010 05:24:48 AM 1285 Views
I agree he was much better than before - 05/02/2010 04:39:33 PM 1199 Views
It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 04/02/2010 11:15:19 PM 1341 Views
Re: It pains me to say it, but Gawyn would win. - 05/02/2010 01:13:52 AM 1279 Views
Gawyn is incredibly irritating - 05/02/2010 01:55:40 AM 1297 Views
No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:21:45 PM 1200 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 10:44:47 PM 1209 Views
Re: No matter how many times people say it, this is still not true. - 05/02/2010 11:53:18 PM 1313 Views
Perhaps the key is that Gawyn is an even more simplistic thinker than Galad. - 06/02/2010 06:20:06 AM 1166 Views
Again, what? When? - 06/02/2010 08:08:47 AM 1180 Views
Well, the fact that he's had access to one of the best educations in Randland - 06/02/2010 09:22:28 AM 1148 Views
Completely different subjects, and pretty insignificant, really. *NM* - 06/02/2010 06:44:35 PM 855 Views
the person to beat Gawyn is Mat - 06/02/2010 06:36:03 AM 1425 Views
Perrin would beat Lan?! *NM* - 06/02/2010 05:52:47 PM 1117 Views
Sure, Gawyn is better - 05/02/2010 02:26:45 AM 1240 Views
Re: Who would win in a fight? (yes, you read that right! ) - 05/02/2010 04:27:16 AM 1338 Views
- 05/02/2010 04:47:17 AM 1055 Views
Add Nynaeve and Egwene to the fight, that's something worth seeing then. - 05/02/2010 05:20:53 AM 1336 Views
Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 04:55:51 PM 1294 Views
I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:10:34 PM 1245 Views
Re: I agree. - 05/02/2010 05:25:52 PM 1460 Views
You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 07:41:28 PM 1336 Views
Re: You're forgeting Nynaeve's fight vs Trollocs in KoD. - 05/02/2010 09:42:32 PM 1273 Views
I just mentioned it since you said Egwene had more combat experience. - 06/02/2010 06:21:38 AM 1211 Views
I think you are missunderstanding me - 07/02/2010 02:04:13 AM 1259 Views
Re: Egwene would hand Nynaeve her ass - 05/02/2010 07:49:27 PM 1814 Views
Totally agree. *NM* - 05/02/2010 07:52:48 PM 1243 Views
yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 09:41:09 PM 1241 Views
Re: yet RJ has told us that Nynaeve would barely pass the AS test - 05/02/2010 10:00:11 PM 1155 Views
Nynaeve might have trouble... - 05/02/2010 10:24:56 PM 1242 Views
That's not what RJ said. He said Nynaeve would be a little hard pressed - 05/02/2010 10:18:42 PM 1057 Views
she might be a little hard pressed to pass a test she should pass without thought! - 06/02/2010 05:56:38 PM 943 Views
Moiraine was hard pressed to pass, and she practiced for ages and is the #1 Battle AS. - 06/02/2010 08:27:26 PM 1175 Views
she passed pretty easily IMO - 06/02/2010 09:12:13 PM 1250 Views
The test for the Shawl has little to nothing to do with channeling, you know this right? *NM* - 05/02/2010 10:23:16 PM 760 Views
Are you being serious? *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:57:33 AM 811 Views
of course it does - 06/02/2010 05:48:41 PM 1225 Views
That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 07:00:52 PM 1144 Views
that's because Moiraine trained and is relatively skilled (for AS) - 06/02/2010 07:34:05 PM 1216 Views
That's nonsensical. - 06/02/2010 09:02:13 PM 1222 Views
It's what RJ said ... "too much specialization" - 06/02/2010 09:14:38 PM 1128 Views
Well, if RJ said it, I guess it must be true. - 06/02/2010 11:17:19 PM 1141 Views
*shrugs* - 07/02/2010 12:59:00 AM 1139 Views
Towers of Midnight spoilers: - 09/11/2010 05:29:05 AM 1140 Views
Re: That's not how it happens in New Spring. - 06/02/2010 08:28:52 PM 1123 Views
Right... - 06/02/2010 08:58:04 PM 1069 Views
About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 10:55:28 PM 1224 Views
Re: About splitting weaves 14 ways - 05/02/2010 11:08:50 PM 1096 Views
Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 07:34:49 PM 1192 Views
Re: Can you provide that quote? - 06/02/2010 08:19:08 PM 1195 Views
there is nothing to say that multiple weaves are involved. - 06/02/2010 09:16:29 PM 1114 Views
That's the nature on the weaving. - 06/02/2010 09:24:39 PM 1175 Views
Not really - 06/02/2010 10:46:52 PM 1201 Views
Yes, really - 06/02/2010 10:55:22 PM 1216 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:29:17 PM 1098 Views
Re: Yes, really - 06/02/2010 11:48:14 PM 1095 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 12:18:12 AM 1140 Views
Oh! Forgot another analogy - 07/02/2010 01:13:27 AM 1136 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:46:14 AM 1126 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 01:59:44 AM 1080 Views
Re: Yes, really - 07/02/2010 06:36:48 PM 1144 Views
IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:01:23 AM 1130 Views
Re: IMO fighting with the Power has little to do with skill - 06/02/2010 09:29:06 AM 1281 Views
I agree ... it's much like Rand's approach to Graendal - 06/02/2010 05:51:17 PM 1168 Views
so you've learned nothing from Cyndane v. Alivia. - 06/02/2010 05:45:19 PM 1098 Views
Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 08:33:08 PM 1223 Views
Re: Cyndane v. Alivia are probably of similar strength. - 06/02/2010 09:17:40 PM 1207 Views
It's a lone example contested by many other examples - 07/02/2010 09:53:51 AM 1120 Views
the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 01:57:43 PM 1214 Views
Re: the only dueling where a channeler tries to overpower is Nynaeve v. Moghedien - 07/02/2010 04:25:57 PM 1123 Views
from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 06:55:27 PM 1218 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:04:57 PM 1059 Views
Re: from RJs lips to your ears ... - 07/02/2010 08:20:31 PM 1059 Views
... but I can't let this one go... - 07/02/2010 11:09:04 PM 1295 Views
Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 07/02/2010 11:16:30 PM 1294 Views
Re: Thank you Robert, Sidious, Jordan - 08/02/2010 09:43:15 AM 1087 Views
Hmm... - 07/02/2010 11:05:00 PM 1125 Views
I disagree - 06/02/2010 05:30:40 AM 1092 Views
Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 05:46:27 PM 1123 Views
Re: Egwene never even got into that fight and we are talking about Lanfear - 06/02/2010 08:23:20 PM 1128 Views
she got hit with a pain weave before she did a damn thing - 06/02/2010 09:21:11 PM 1124 Views
lol - 07/02/2010 01:55:18 AM 1153 Views
Go look below at some of the quotes I've provided - 07/02/2010 01:59:51 AM 1206 Views
If the Power was used, I would agree - 06/02/2010 05:59:14 PM 1148 Views
On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 10:43:43 PM 1064 Views
Exactly my point - 06/02/2010 10:49:49 PM 1082 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:12:27 PM 2369 Views
plenty of evidence that Nynaeve is unskilled outside of Healing - 07/02/2010 01:21:20 AM 1198 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:02:40 AM 1178 Views
There was one other very skilled Healer in the series... - 07/02/2010 06:44:41 PM 1110 Views
I'm sure she could if she bothered to train - 07/02/2010 06:57:17 PM 963 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 06/02/2010 11:15:59 PM 1121 Views
Nope - 07/02/2010 01:26:19 AM 1163 Views
Re: On the whole Egwene vs. Nynaeve thing... - 07/02/2010 08:21:19 AM 1312 Views
Egwene and Nynaeve had already confront each other - 07/02/2010 08:45:23 AM 1252 Views
but whoever wins - 05/02/2010 04:54:52 AM 1182 Views
*nods* That's cuz ... - 05/02/2010 05:26:57 AM 1246 Views
I actually think Lan would win - 05/02/2010 04:57:24 PM 1185 Views
Agreed - 05/02/2010 08:22:26 PM 1153 Views
I think Lan, hands down. - 05/02/2010 03:30:20 PM 1051 Views
THANK you. - 05/02/2010 11:41:43 PM 9684 Views
Re: THANK you. - 06/02/2010 06:26:04 AM 1158 Views
Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:04:25 AM 1328 Views
Re: Gawyn and Galad have become tough - 06/02/2010 09:31:51 AM 1027 Views
Gawyn is destined to protect the Great Mother ( Egwene ) - 05/02/2010 04:11:51 PM 1213 Views
Hopper!!!!! *NM* - 06/02/2010 12:21:25 AM 748 Views
Hasn't Hopper already lost in a fight? *NM* - 06/02/2010 01:48:19 AM 718 Views
According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 08:55:50 AM 1207 Views
That can't be right, can it? - 06/02/2010 05:51:04 PM 1187 Views
Even in NS only Ryne is known to be better than Lan - 07/02/2010 01:57:29 AM 1243 Views
Huh .... - 06/02/2010 06:23:10 PM 1193 Views
I don't recall Rand loosing to Riatin. - 06/02/2010 06:39:31 PM 1181 Views
Well, to be fair, the text doesn't mention much - 07/02/2010 12:48:59 AM 1145 Views
Re: According to the Theoryland database RJ apparently said once... - 06/02/2010 06:28:15 PM 1152 Views
"Gawhine"... I like it. *NM* - 06/02/2010 08:40:32 PM 740 Views
If Gawyn is the best because he defeated two Warders, what about Rand? - 06/02/2010 09:15:34 PM 1174 Views
These are pointless. - 09/02/2010 12:52:21 AM 1214 Views
These are scalar comparatives - 24/02/2010 09:45:11 PM 1170 Views

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