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Yeah..... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM
Remember Egwene? She was held prisoner in the Stone, entered T'A'R, accomplished a Shield on a Black Sister and returned to her body only to find that the physical door was still locked. Moghedien could have done the same.

Especially since the most important information is already revealed to her: Nynaeve had forced Moghedien to enter T'A'R to go to Caemlyn to fight Rahvin, thus Moghedien could have been busy in T'A'R while sleeping, trying to find a way out of her predicament.


But Asmodean wasn't killed in the Dream World. He was killed in the real one. I know that the adam doesn't limit one from entering the real world, but ultimately what does it matter. You cannot effect the real world from the dream world. If it was at all possible, Moghedian would have known about it and done it to get herself out. Instead, she took her punishment and ultimately dealt with the consequences.

Also remember that Nynaeve didn't force Moghedien into the Dreamworld....she caught her there. It wasn't until Moghedian was looking for a way to win her freedom with info that Nynaeve even knew that Rand was battling Rhavin. It was then just blind luck/ tavaren that the end of the battle happened to go down in the Dreamworld & not the real one. Otherwise, Nynaeve linked to Moghedian would have been completely useless.

~Jeordam
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So your name is Graendal.... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 09:18:00 PM 1686 Views
one of the reasons I'm at a loss with her death ... along with the lead-up being clumsy *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 09:36:29 PM 708 Views
She very well... Jeordam - 01/02/2010 11:13:50 PM 970 Views
Exactly how I feel ... to the letter! *NM* darius_sedai - 01/02/2010 11:17:57 PM 570 Views
Re: She very well... jiggy - 02/02/2010 08:42:17 AM 894 Views
Ha! "Graendal actually kills Asmodean". A very bold claim. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 10:51:40 AM 610 Views
Bold like saying that water is wet.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:46:54 PM 614 Views
I am now split with a 80% belief it's Graendal and 20% that it's Moghedien *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:11:47 PM 398 Views
Moghedien.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:15:41 PM 701 Views
The a'dam doesn't limit your ability to enter T'A'R RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:36:26 PM 661 Views
Yeah..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:46:50 PM 862 Views
Re: Yeah..... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:42:59 PM 652 Views
This brings up a very intersting question... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:30:49 PM 870 Views
Re: This brings up a very intersting question... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:57:24 PM 661 Views
Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 07:56:33 PM 739 Views
when was Semirhage in an a'dam? *NM* darius_sedai - 02/02/2010 08:48:27 PM 399 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 09:03:54 PM 663 Views
Egwene was faintly forkrooted, not heavily. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:24:55 PM 659 Views
It was heavy enough to nullify her ability almost completely by TGS RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:04 PM 575 Views
That's still extremely faint. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:10 PM 661 Views
Re: That's still extremely faint. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:34:06 PM 705 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? fionwe1987 - 03/02/2010 01:02:13 AM 608 Views
Re: Moghedien? Really? RugbyPlayingAshaman - 03/02/2010 03:31:21 PM 820 Views
The chance that Moggy killed Asmo is actually 0 % Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:32:03 PM 736 Views
*nods* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 09:36:04 PM 569 Views
Well, I completely disagree, but that's another discussion. *NM* Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:07:05 PM 377 Views
Yes, I agree. *NM* RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:26:13 PM 520 Views
As bad as Sammael's death. *NM* Kieran - 03/02/2010 02:00:02 AM 378 Views
The lead up was clumsy because her death scene was rather forced. Libby - 09/02/2010 11:11:21 PM 816 Views
Yes, pretty much. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 01/02/2010 11:21:31 PM 715 Views
Couple of flaws in that reasoning Lord Haart - 02/02/2010 07:56:35 AM 995 Views
Graendal already has a massive inverted ward around the palace. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 03:23:44 PM 765 Views
Come on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 04:58:34 PM 912 Views
IMO Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 05:58:10 PM 718 Views
This could go either way.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:14:21 PM 860 Views
RE: Strength and Compulsion RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 06:31:13 PM 866 Views
I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:57:11 PM 742 Views
Re: I never figured that Verin was weak....or even middling. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 07:51:15 PM 733 Views
Verin was using her angreal when she compelled. *NM* fionwe1987 - 02/02/2010 08:00:50 PM 426 Views
Danke for clarification. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 08:15:39 PM 594 Views
The thing is... Etzel - 02/02/2010 09:39:18 AM 721 Views
Its still a game... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:09:42 PM 750 Views
I could buy... Etzel - 02/02/2010 07:16:43 PM 698 Views
Please, Artsapat - 02/02/2010 10:42:00 AM 703 Views
*ha* Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:10:41 PM 660 Views
My name is Graendal? My parents will be so confused. TaskmasterJack - 02/02/2010 02:19:26 PM 680 Views
So what would you say... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 05:12:09 PM 654 Views
Wow. Sareitha Sedai - 02/02/2010 06:00:11 PM 721 Views
Never underestimate.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 06:08:42 PM 639 Views
"Oh, no... Rand is totally going to balefire me!" *NM* TaskmasterJack - 03/02/2010 08:50:26 PM 365 Views
A conclusion with an explanation built around it. Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 10:22:29 PM 754 Views
Hah! RugbyPlayingAshaman - 02/02/2010 10:38:38 PM 585 Views
I miss Diomedes . *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/02/2010 11:07:45 PM 337 Views
So...like the theory of Macro Evolution? People seem to believe that..... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:22:41 PM 751 Views
... Fanatic-Templar - 03/02/2010 01:23:06 AM 658 Views
Ok...I'm just saying... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:00:46 PM 831 Views
I don't mean to make any generalisations about you, and I'm sorry if that's what I sounded like. Fanatic-Templar - 04/02/2010 12:24:34 AM 689 Views
That's ridiculous rAndy aL - 02/02/2010 11:39:41 PM 704 Views
Hold on now.... Jeordam - 02/02/2010 11:51:32 PM 864 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 02:52:07 AM 691 Views
Re: Hold on now.... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:59:44 PM 721 Views
Re: Hold on now.... Lord Haart - 04/02/2010 04:44:31 AM 634 Views
Your theory breaks down because of something Brandon said. Logain - 03/02/2010 03:49:58 AM 638 Views
Kind of Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 04:10:04 AM 716 Views
I disagree. Gher - 03/02/2010 05:31:39 AM 590 Views
But how many previously unseen weaves have had such huge implications? Lord Haart - 03/02/2010 01:29:15 PM 865 Views
Two things come to mind... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 03:50:38 PM 784 Views
I don't really think this is relevant Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 05:03:51 PM 697 Views
There's a difference.... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:01:30 PM 752 Views
I know there is. You're the one who brought up the weaves being picked apart Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:37:40 PM 728 Views
*grins* Jeordam - 03/02/2010 06:42:54 PM 742 Views
But again... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 06:59:18 PM 665 Views
sure we do darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:03:40 PM 607 Views
Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:14:24 PM 592 Views
But here's the thing... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 07:36:42 PM 709 Views
I think we disagree with what "subtle" means here. Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:46:20 PM 632 Views
Kerb was more subtle than most, but we've seen subtler. Gher - 04/02/2010 05:16:33 PM 835 Views
Re: Each of them was at the very least confused/disoriented afterwards. darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:37:58 PM 584 Views
... Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 07:42:07 PM 660 Views
Re: ... darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 07:59:26 PM 631 Views
But Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:04:27 PM 732 Views
I think it would be obvious if Ituralde was acting different darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:18:50 PM 885 Views
Hrm Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:36:12 PM 812 Views
It happens in WH when they go to tell her that Moridin is N'B darius_sedai - 03/02/2010 08:43:11 PM 677 Views
Thanks *NM* Sareitha Sedai - 03/02/2010 08:47:29 PM 373 Views
Now try and not lynch me... Jeordam - 03/02/2010 04:08:11 PM 708 Views
But that's not how it happened BlackAdder - 03/02/2010 08:18:59 PM 692 Views
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