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That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM
I always felt like her 'cause' was more to the mission itself than the results. I always had the impression that it was more important to her that she complete her goal than it was for people to be benefited from the results of that goal.


The whole Dragon Reborn thing means a TON of death, destruction, and chaos. It's a GIVEN. That's the BEST case scenario. Moiraine knows that the most important thing, the ONLY thing, is making sure Rand wins no matter what. It will be bad either way, but if Rand loses it will be an eternity of agony.



The Aiel prophecy is a good analogy. Without Rand, the Aiel will all be wiped out in the Last Battle. Hands down, no question, an entire race of millions of people will be slaughtered.

WITH Rand... a "remnant of a remnant" will be saved. Whether that means a few hundred thousand, a few dozen, or just a few, it's better than the certainty of zero.




Moiraine realized this a long time ago, which is why she is so single-minded. She's almost like a Verin hypnosis-victim. The Dragon must fight the Last Battle, and win. No matter what.
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Who is the bravest WOT character -- a soldier willing to sacrifice the most for their own cause? ajah - 23/01/2010 08:47:47 AM 1828 Views
reply to my own survey ajah - 23/01/2010 08:53:26 AM 1069 Views
I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. *NM* Etzel - 23/01/2010 09:04:48 AM 446 Views
Re: I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. ajah - 23/01/2010 09:11:12 AM 983 Views
I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner beetnemesis - 23/01/2010 09:12:01 AM 1058 Views
Re: I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner ajah - 23/01/2010 09:23:18 AM 1059 Views
..Supporting, I suppose. But just barely beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:27:13 AM 873 Views
Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 11:15:14 AM 1035 Views
I also approve of both your suggestions. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:11:26 PM 428 Views
Yes, but you're incompetent Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:39:49 PM 828 Views
Cadsuane almost wet her self then ran out the door darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 04:53:13 PM 1223 Views
But Tuon wasn't threatened with death... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2010 05:20:17 PM 723 Views
Occasionally. At least I didn't dedicate my life to achieving mediocrity, Hidious. Fanatic-Templar - 25/01/2010 05:42:21 PM 824 Views
Re: Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. ajah - 23/01/2010 10:15:27 PM 974 Views
Can totally get behind Tuon for that scene. Bornhold's a boring fanatic, though. *NM* beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:28:11 AM 453 Views
Rand? Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:08:48 PM 1005 Views
Rand and Verin randfandom - 23/01/2010 06:05:10 PM 928 Views
Not even really a contest. johnnymack - 23/01/2010 06:25:26 PM 1030 Views
Incidentally... Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 10:00:02 PM 889 Views
Short answer: her life (and lifetime) beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:32:32 AM 1002 Views
Meh. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 09:43:50 AM 866 Views
Psh, who joins the Aes Sedai with a cause? beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:55:29 AM 767 Views
How did she ever dodge the Black Ajah? Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:53:17 AM 827 Views
Bravery vs Sacrifice. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:42:13 PM 932 Views
She was fighting the BA, but they couldn't know she existed beetnemesis - 25/01/2010 05:14:47 AM 925 Views
Not the point. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 06:16:05 PM 753 Views
The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... Yondaime - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM 975 Views
That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM 917 Views
That's an interesting comment. Gher - 25/01/2010 04:20:15 AM 841 Views
Re: That's an interesting comment. Lord Haart - 25/01/2010 06:52:23 AM 711 Views
Egwene should be considered *NM* Reptile - 24/01/2010 04:50:38 PM 412 Views
I'm going with darius_sedai - 24/01/2010 06:06:57 AM 871 Views
A very sensible suggestion. I agree. *NM* Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:56:55 AM 364 Views
All the Forsaken except Mesaana and perhaps Moridin qualify. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:49:17 PM 791 Views
Easy Winner... Kieran - 24/01/2010 10:36:14 PM 763 Views
Egwene RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2010 03:24:39 PM 719 Views
I'll have to disagree with this Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:37:43 PM 754 Views
I think that title is best suited to Elayne darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 05:01:03 PM 1088 Views
And she is just plain lucky too. And people tend to save her a$$. amirebram - 26/01/2010 10:10:33 PM 792 Views
I changed my mind - Tigraine Mantear is the bravest character I can think of. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:32 PM 838 Views
Lews Therin and the hundred Companions Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:31:03 PM 893 Views
+1, this belongs on the list *NM* BlackAdder - 26/01/2010 11:27:00 AM 338 Views
I can't really credit Lews Therin with anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:09 PM 724 Views
Why's he too powerful? Sidious - 28/01/2010 04:31:56 PM 724 Views
Dragon Reborn, plus mightiest channeler, plus t'a'veren of great magnitude, plus leader of the World RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/01/2010 05:56:13 PM 686 Views
Tamra. Her speech after Gitara Moroso's death in NS was heartbreaking. Lord Haart - 26/01/2010 08:28:37 AM 725 Views
I'd say Galad ranagrande - 29/01/2010 10:08:36 PM 662 Views
Nynaeve isn't the "most fearless", but she is the bravest JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:18:15 PM 907 Views
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