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That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM
I always felt like her 'cause' was more to the mission itself than the results. I always had the impression that it was more important to her that she complete her goal than it was for people to be benefited from the results of that goal.


The whole Dragon Reborn thing means a TON of death, destruction, and chaos. It's a GIVEN. That's the BEST case scenario. Moiraine knows that the most important thing, the ONLY thing, is making sure Rand wins no matter what. It will be bad either way, but if Rand loses it will be an eternity of agony.



The Aiel prophecy is a good analogy. Without Rand, the Aiel will all be wiped out in the Last Battle. Hands down, no question, an entire race of millions of people will be slaughtered.

WITH Rand... a "remnant of a remnant" will be saved. Whether that means a few hundred thousand, a few dozen, or just a few, it's better than the certainty of zero.




Moiraine realized this a long time ago, which is why she is so single-minded. She's almost like a Verin hypnosis-victim. The Dragon must fight the Last Battle, and win. No matter what.
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Who is the bravest WOT character -- a soldier willing to sacrifice the most for their own cause? ajah - 23/01/2010 08:47:47 AM 2180 Views
reply to my own survey ajah - 23/01/2010 08:53:26 AM 1484 Views
I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. *NM* Etzel - 23/01/2010 09:04:48 AM 625 Views
Re: I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. ajah - 23/01/2010 09:11:12 AM 1425 Views
I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner beetnemesis - 23/01/2010 09:12:01 AM 1437 Views
Re: I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner ajah - 23/01/2010 09:23:18 AM 1473 Views
..Supporting, I suppose. But just barely beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:27:13 AM 1238 Views
Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. Lord Haart - 23/01/2010 11:15:14 AM 1363 Views
I also approve of both your suggestions. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:11:26 PM 628 Views
Yes, but you're incompetent Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:39:49 PM 1124 Views
Cadsuane almost wet her self then ran out the door darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 04:53:13 PM 1558 Views
But Tuon wasn't threatened with death... fionwe1987 - 25/01/2010 05:20:17 PM 1068 Views
Occasionally. At least I didn't dedicate my life to achieving mediocrity, Hidious. Fanatic-Templar - 25/01/2010 05:42:21 PM 1170 Views
Re: Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. ajah - 23/01/2010 10:15:27 PM 1341 Views
Can totally get behind Tuon for that scene. Bornhold's a boring fanatic, though. *NM* beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:28:11 AM 627 Views
Rand? Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 05:08:48 PM 1405 Views
Rand and Verin randfandom - 23/01/2010 06:05:10 PM 1302 Views
Not even really a contest. johnnymack - 23/01/2010 06:25:26 PM 1381 Views
Incidentally... Fanatic-Templar - 23/01/2010 10:00:02 PM 1250 Views
Short answer: her life (and lifetime) beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:32:32 AM 1377 Views
Meh. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 09:43:50 AM 1208 Views
Psh, who joins the Aes Sedai with a cause? beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:55:29 AM 1126 Views
How did she ever dodge the Black Ajah? Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:53:17 AM 1180 Views
Bravery vs Sacrifice. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:42:13 PM 1256 Views
She was fighting the BA, but they couldn't know she existed beetnemesis - 25/01/2010 05:14:47 AM 1299 Views
Not the point. Fanatic-Templar - 24/01/2010 06:16:05 PM 1118 Views
The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... Yondaime - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM 1391 Views
That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. beetnemesis - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM 1300 Views
That's an interesting comment. Gher - 25/01/2010 04:20:15 AM 1198 Views
Re: That's an interesting comment. Lord Haart - 25/01/2010 06:52:23 AM 1053 Views
Egwene should be considered *NM* Reptile - 24/01/2010 04:50:38 PM 576 Views
I'm going with darius_sedai - 24/01/2010 06:06:57 AM 1221 Views
A very sensible suggestion. I agree. *NM* Lordling - 24/01/2010 10:56:55 AM 547 Views
All the Forsaken except Mesaana and perhaps Moridin qualify. Lord Haart - 24/01/2010 03:49:17 PM 1167 Views
Easy Winner... Kieran - 24/01/2010 10:36:14 PM 1104 Views
Egwene RugbyPlayingAshaman - 25/01/2010 03:24:39 PM 1106 Views
I'll have to disagree with this Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:37:43 PM 1141 Views
I think that title is best suited to Elayne darius_sedai - 25/01/2010 05:01:03 PM 1464 Views
And she is just plain lucky too. And people tend to save her a$$. amirebram - 26/01/2010 10:10:33 PM 1126 Views
I changed my mind - Tigraine Mantear is the bravest character I can think of. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:32 PM 1235 Views
Lews Therin and the hundred Companions Sidious - 25/01/2010 04:31:03 PM 1252 Views
+1, this belongs on the list *NM* BlackAdder - 26/01/2010 11:27:00 AM 522 Views
I can't really credit Lews Therin with anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 27/01/2010 06:01:09 PM 1099 Views
Why's he too powerful? Sidious - 28/01/2010 04:31:56 PM 1061 Views
Dragon Reborn, plus mightiest channeler, plus t'a'veren of great magnitude, plus leader of the World RugbyPlayingAshaman - 28/01/2010 05:56:13 PM 1016 Views
Tamra. Her speech after Gitara Moroso's death in NS was heartbreaking. Lord Haart - 26/01/2010 08:28:37 AM 1138 Views
I'd say Galad ranagrande - 29/01/2010 10:08:36 PM 1040 Views
Nynaeve isn't the "most fearless", but she is the bravest JasonD - 24/02/2010 09:18:15 PM 1273 Views
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