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The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... Yondaime Send a noteboard - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM
They just seemed to react to whatever situation they were put in. Thom, for example. He's a great character and an awesome guy, but you can't really argue that he has had a 'purpose' that he has been working for (besides saving Moraine :) ). Same thing for Faile, and Nyneave for example. Neither of them has really had a 'higher calling' that they have been working to fulfill. Nyneave did a little bit during The Gathering Storm, while she tried to help Rand, but mostly she's worked on numerous small things.

Cadsuane, Moraine, and Verin all had higher purposes. I don't really count Cadsuane's and Verin's work as that great, however. I'm sure Cadsuane was working on something important before she started up with Rand, but from what I've seen of her mission to teach Rand humanity, I've seen almost no sacrifice on her part. Largely because she wouldn't rather be doing anything else; it wasn't a 'sacrifice' to take on Rand, she was doing it because that's what she enjoys doing. As for Verin, I empathize with her a lot. But from what I've read and gathered about how she ended up in that situation in the first place, it was largely her own fault. She ended up a Darkfriend because of the choices she made, but she tried to make the most of a bad situation. Major kudos to her, but she isn't the most dedicated WOT character.

I respect Moraine's devotion to her Purpose quite a bit; she faced Black Ajah, gave up chances to progress in Tar Valon, and eventually died (ish) for her Cause. She Sacrificed quite a bit. However, I never really empathized with her that well. I always felt like her 'cause' was more to the mission itself than the results. I always had the impression that it was more important to her that she complete her goal than it was for people to be benefited from the results of that goal. I don't think I'm saying this very clearly, but then again, I'm one of the few people that doesn't really like Moraine. However, I can't argue that her devotion, whether it was just to the mission or to actually help the world, far exceeds most other WOT characters.

One of my personal favorite, however, is probably Bashere. I can't help but respect the man. He was originally serving his Queen, but he was a greater good, and made decisions and took massive action in serving that good. He's aware that if he ever returns to Saldea, he'll probably get killed, but he gave that up to support Rand.
"Take the Gleeman!" Rand and Mat cried, throwing Thom to the Myrddraal. Then they ran away as fast as they could, and Thom's screams quickly faded into the distance along with any inconvenient feelings of guilt.
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Who is the bravest WOT character -- a soldier willing to sacrifice the most for their own cause? - 23/01/2010 08:47:47 AM 1841 Views
reply to my own survey - 23/01/2010 08:53:26 AM 1080 Views
I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. *NM* - 23/01/2010 09:04:48 AM 450 Views
Re: I'm also very impressed by Ituralde. - 23/01/2010 09:11:12 AM 993 Views
I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner - 23/01/2010 09:12:01 AM 1069 Views
Re: I'd say there are only two serious candidates, and one clear winner - 23/01/2010 09:23:18 AM 1072 Views
..Supporting, I suppose. But just barely - 24/01/2010 09:27:13 AM 883 Views
Bornhold, leading the suicide charge against the Seanchan in TGH. - 23/01/2010 11:15:14 AM 1047 Views
I also approve of both your suggestions. *NM* - 23/01/2010 05:11:26 PM 431 Views
Yes, but you're incompetent - 25/01/2010 04:39:49 PM 836 Views
Cadsuane almost wet her self then ran out the door - 25/01/2010 04:53:13 PM 1232 Views
But Tuon wasn't threatened with death... - 25/01/2010 05:20:17 PM 731 Views
Rand? - 23/01/2010 05:08:48 PM 1013 Views
Rand and Verin - 23/01/2010 06:05:10 PM 937 Views
Not even really a contest. - 23/01/2010 06:25:26 PM 1039 Views
Incidentally... - 23/01/2010 10:00:02 PM 902 Views
Short answer: her life (and lifetime) - 24/01/2010 09:32:32 AM 1013 Views
Meh. - 24/01/2010 09:43:50 AM 876 Views
Psh, who joins the Aes Sedai with a cause? - 24/01/2010 09:55:29 AM 778 Views
How did she ever dodge the Black Ajah? - 24/01/2010 10:53:17 AM 836 Views
Bravery vs Sacrifice. - 24/01/2010 03:42:13 PM 942 Views
She was fighting the BA, but they couldn't know she existed - 25/01/2010 05:14:47 AM 933 Views
Not the point. - 24/01/2010 06:16:05 PM 762 Views
The thing is, most of the people I try to think of didn't really have a 'cause' ... - 23/01/2010 11:34:42 PM 985 Views
That's just it. That's really the Dragon Reborn myth in a nutshell, really. - 24/01/2010 09:38:12 AM 924 Views
That's an interesting comment. - 25/01/2010 04:20:15 AM 850 Views
Re: That's an interesting comment. - 25/01/2010 06:52:23 AM 720 Views
Egwene should be considered *NM* - 24/01/2010 04:50:38 PM 417 Views
I'm going with - 24/01/2010 06:06:57 AM 882 Views
A very sensible suggestion. I agree. *NM* - 24/01/2010 10:56:55 AM 368 Views
All the Forsaken except Mesaana and perhaps Moridin qualify. - 24/01/2010 03:49:17 PM 802 Views
Easy Winner... - 24/01/2010 10:36:14 PM 770 Views
Egwene - 25/01/2010 03:24:39 PM 729 Views
I'll have to disagree with this - 25/01/2010 04:37:43 PM 763 Views
I think that title is best suited to Elayne - 25/01/2010 05:01:03 PM 1101 Views
And she is just plain lucky too. And people tend to save her a$$. - 26/01/2010 10:10:33 PM 799 Views
I changed my mind - Tigraine Mantear is the bravest character I can think of. - 27/01/2010 06:01:32 PM 848 Views
Lews Therin and the hundred Companions - 25/01/2010 04:31:03 PM 902 Views
+1, this belongs on the list *NM* - 26/01/2010 11:27:00 AM 341 Views
I can't really credit Lews Therin with anything. - 27/01/2010 06:01:09 PM 733 Views
Why's he too powerful? - 28/01/2010 04:31:56 PM 732 Views
Tamra. Her speech after Gitara Moroso's death in NS was heartbreaking. - 26/01/2010 08:28:37 AM 735 Views
I'd say Galad - 29/01/2010 10:08:36 PM 672 Views
Nynaeve isn't the "most fearless", but she is the bravest - 24/02/2010 09:18:15 PM 913 Views

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