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Dude... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM
Cyndane herself said she's weaker in WH (With the Choedan Kal). What's the point in entertaining theories that are blatantly contradicted by the character in question's own PoV?

It's extremely frustrating to read theories that are based on ideas that deliberately contradict plain statements. What's the point in Brandon or RJ answering questions if people think they're lying, being devious, or giving double meanings? Brandon gave a detailed answer regarding Cyndane.

This much I can agree with, though your own dismissal of RJ's statements on OP strength makes me question what right you have to say this. But..
It's like he told us about Shadar Haran and Elza directly in two answers and how they freed Semirhage, and suddenly people are throwing in a whole chain of people who were helping without any evidence. Next we'll have Cenn Buie involved in Semirhage's escape. I also think that Osan'gar was Asmodean. Yes, he spoke about being the inventor of trollocs, but I think he was acting to throw us off the trail. He can channel saidin and is very strong. That's a clue.

This is pure nonsense. BS is in no way obligated to mention every player involved in that scene. He merely confirmed that Elza and SH were. He didn't say Moridin, but he at least is very obviously involved, if only behind the scenes.

The involvement of Graendal (unlike Cenn Buie's or the farmer in Salesin's) is indicated by other things, and in no way contradicted by Brandon's statements. Throwing a fit doesn't change that fact.
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My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. Shishka - 20/01/2010 05:12:58 PM 2852 Views
It was discussed Etzel - 20/01/2010 05:27:43 PM 1185 Views
Re: It was discussed Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:09:01 PM 970 Views
Maybe... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:15:57 PM 909 Views
Re: Maybe... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:53:47 PM 965 Views
Yeah, that would be a possibility! *NM* Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:01:26 PM 890 Views
That doesn't really jive with Aran'gar though darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:03:35 PM 906 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 09:11:47 PM 879 Views
I think it's pretty obvious that pretty much any man is going to be darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:41:40 PM 834 Views
The idea behind this theory is... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:15:19 AM 1022 Views
Maybe there is a difference between male souls and female souls ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:35:57 PM 904 Views
Plausible darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 09:45:21 PM 1003 Views
Actually, I didn't mean to imply that my idea of female strength is related to body size ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 10:10:48 PM 883 Views
LOL ... I hear ya on that darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 10:17:02 PM 947 Views
I'm so pleased this theory is false! darius_sedai - 12/12/2010 05:00:06 PM 802 Views
people didn't like it when I proposed it kcf - 20/01/2010 05:31:18 PM 1125 Views
Thanks. Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:36:58 PM 1020 Views
I don't like the idea that she was healed by a woman Skeeve the Great - 20/01/2010 05:48:19 PM 968 Views
I agree, and it seems unlikely that a new "better" method darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:07:04 PM 884 Views
It's NOT due to Stilling or Healing and it's NOT due to Cyndane's weaker body... Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:46:08 PM 1008 Views
I think Moiraine's gaining strength seems a little too LotR. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:55:34 PM 918 Views
I think Moraine gaining strength is VERY LotR. That's why I think RJ went with it... *NM* Shannow - 20/01/2010 06:57:39 PM 557 Views
yet he moved away from LotR very early in the series *NM* darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 06:59:05 PM 517 Views
I also like that theory Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:14:20 PM 944 Views
I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:17:59 PM 906 Views
Yes perhaps Sidious - 20/01/2010 07:25:06 PM 937 Views
Cadsuane is considerably stronger than Moiraine darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:31:42 PM 920 Views
Nope... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:38:55 PM 896 Views
I disagree as usual darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 07:45:29 PM 807 Views
We don't know the magnitude of what Aes Sedai consider a significant strength difference... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:54:38 PM 888 Views
You are comparing Male and female strength here darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:18:45 PM 941 Views
Why do you misquote Moiraine? Shannow - 20/01/2010 08:39:55 PM 912 Views
Agreeing to disagree here ... we interpret the evidence differently and it's futile to argue. darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:41:08 PM 1079 Views
Cadsuane isn't too strong Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:19:41 AM 920 Views
Actually... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 05:57:43 AM 893 Views
Re: Actually... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:31:53 PM 931 Views
Sorry, that was the Glossary... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:07:56 PM 820 Views
Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:05:23 AM 990 Views
So Glossary or character? fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:22:15 PM 693 Views
Re: Actually... The_Archer - 12/12/2010 04:42:22 PM 932 Views
Re: I think BS's error regarding Cyndane's strength can also be explained by this theory... Shishka - 20/01/2010 07:43:28 PM 908 Views
Agree with both your comments... Shannow - 20/01/2010 07:46:07 PM 907 Views
Re: Agree with both your comments... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:24:16 PM 961 Views
Hmm ... I think maybe BS DID know about Cyndane being stronger than Graendal ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 09:20:31 PM 907 Views
But seriously... Etzel - 21/01/2010 12:14:16 PM 802 Views
Re: But seriously... Sidious - 21/01/2010 12:34:18 PM 972 Views
I don't think it has to be so unique... Etzel - 21/01/2010 01:13:00 PM 932 Views
Re: I don't think it has to be so unique... Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:49:42 PM 933 Views
Also would explain the question of why Moiraine left the angreal on the wagon instead of using it... Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:30:46 PM 907 Views
I think it makes more sense... Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:34:30 PM 937 Views
Lanfear would have been toast if Moiraine had the angreal, plus foreknowledge of the confrontation.. Shannow - 21/01/2010 02:38:57 PM 906 Views
In her letter to Thom Etzel - 21/01/2010 02:55:32 PM 929 Views
One other tiny thing Sareitha Sedai - 21/01/2010 03:18:03 PM 869 Views
Yes, and that is often overlooked Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:48:08 PM 819 Views
That's my interpretation, also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:00:35 PM 797 Views
Nods in agreement darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:24:59 PM 953 Views
I think the "bubble of hope" was simply ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:08:44 PM 745 Views
Agreed *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 11:38:43 PM 531 Views
No, I don't think so Sidious - 21/01/2010 04:43:53 PM 988 Views
I always figured Lanfear bargained away some power to escape the Finns beetnemesis - 20/01/2010 07:37:31 PM 904 Views
But... Etzel - 20/01/2010 07:50:14 PM 946 Views
Re: My Lanfear/Cyndane theory has been disproven. callandor1000 - 20/01/2010 07:51:38 PM 1172 Views
That idea has also been disproven ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:19:22 PM 1030 Views
Agreed... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:36:47 PM 801 Views
Yeah ... Shishka - 20/01/2010 08:43:24 PM 946 Views
The closest I ever saw was the "Lightfriend/Purple Ajah" theory darius_sedai - 20/01/2010 08:46:20 PM 1179 Views
Yeah, the Verin revelation was cool... Etzel - 20/01/2010 08:48:53 PM 893 Views
Re: That idea has also been disproven ... callandor1000 - 21/01/2010 05:12:45 PM 882 Views
I think it may be more simple than it seems. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:15:05 PM 1005 Views
Doesn't fit with BS's words Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:27:43 PM 832 Views
Also ... Shishka - 21/01/2010 04:32:58 PM 798 Views
I don't think BS words or Cyndane's comments really prove anything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:42:59 PM 941 Views
BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:46:48 PM 574 Views
Re: BS says that Cyndane is truly weaker. So, this theory is out. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 04:49:09 PM 917 Views
Well, actually Etzel - 21/01/2010 04:54:17 PM 838 Views
Re: Well, actually RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 05:11:10 PM 848 Views
The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 05:24:03 PM 597 Views
Re: The wording is absolutely unambiguous, but I suppose one can argue everything. RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:07:09 PM 1154 Views
I agree darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:23:34 PM 924 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 21/01/2010 07:59:36 PM 923 Views
Re: I agree darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:23:37 AM 827 Views
Re: I agree Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:11:55 AM 1007 Views
LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 07:41:00 PM 870 Views
Re: LOL ... I love that you of all people are going to fall back on this argument! Sidious - 22/01/2010 08:05:08 PM 991 Views
and you have zero evidence that Lanfear is considerably stronger than the others darius_sedai - 22/01/2010 11:23:11 PM 733 Views
It's also a totally abstruse explanation, though, and therefore certainy wrong. *NM* Etzel - 22/01/2010 11:55:17 AM 731 Views
I think... Etzel - 21/01/2010 06:46:57 PM 871 Views
Re: I think... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 06:58:49 PM 768 Views
You are right... Etzel - 21/01/2010 07:12:47 PM 866 Views
Re: You are right... RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 07:21:00 PM 975 Views
Anyone who thinks she's hiding her strength is wrong Sidious - 21/01/2010 08:09:42 PM 1143 Views
Indeed, it's pretty idiotic. *NM* Etzel - 21/01/2010 08:19:53 PM 481 Views
Dude... fionwe1987 - 21/01/2010 08:51:08 PM 911 Views
Re: Dude... Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:14:08 AM 941 Views
Re: Dude... fionwe1987 - 22/01/2010 10:21:15 PM 1080 Views
Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 21/01/2010 11:19:16 PM 774 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 11:15:20 AM 918 Views
Re: Meh RugbyPlayingAshaman - 22/01/2010 03:09:10 PM 861 Views
Re: Meh Sidious - 22/01/2010 04:15:51 PM 887 Views
actually if one really wants to figure out what happened to Cyndane darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 07:00:33 PM 1058 Views
Dumb question, but do transmigrated souls need to re-reach their full potential? Gher - 21/01/2010 06:19:57 PM 913 Views
It seems like they start out as powerful as they were, but I don't think it's ever been stated *NM* darius_sedai - 21/01/2010 06:44:45 PM 569 Views
Agreed. *NM* Shishka - 21/01/2010 07:03:13 PM 495 Views
That's what I thought. *NM* Gher - 21/01/2010 10:05:38 PM 515 Views
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