BS's quote about a way to defeat the Oath Rod suggests that Mesaana did something to prevent that the Oath Rod worked properly, IMO, so that she was never bound. I doubt that a Forsaken would let herself be bound, even temporarily, if it's possible to avoid it (and we suggested ways to achieve that).
Besides, it would seem quite lame, if Mesaana took the Oaths and then removed them with a TAR Oath Rod (could Mesaana even be 100 % certain that this would be possible, if she was never bound before?), or if she simply fetched the actual Oath Rod in the WT later to unbound herself again.
Besides, it would seem quite lame, if Mesaana took the Oaths and then removed them with a TAR Oath Rod (could Mesaana even be 100 % certain that this would be possible, if she was never bound before?), or if she simply fetched the actual Oath Rod in the WT later to unbound herself again.
Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod
- 18/01/2010 04:50:29 PM
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I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye
- 18/01/2010 05:12:12 PM
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Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye
- 18/01/2010 05:43:26 PM
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I like that idea ...
- 18/01/2010 06:07:09 PM
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Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye
- 18/01/2010 05:58:44 PM
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I don't think Messana would have fallen over dead
- 18/01/2010 06:06:35 PM
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I agree ...
- 18/01/2010 06:15:25 PM
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I'm not sure
- 18/01/2010 06:54:51 PM
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It didn't when Romanda retook her Oaths in TGS
- 18/01/2010 07:13:20 PM
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Hmmm ...
- 18/01/2010 07:24:51 PM
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No she unswore them and retook them
- 18/01/2010 07:33:30 PM
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Yeah, I realized that after I posted, so I editted my post (again) ...
- 18/01/2010 07:36:39 PM
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I'm not sure I follow
- 18/01/2010 07:41:19 PM
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The point I was trying to make was ...
- 18/01/2010 08:05:16 PM
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Now I get it ... seems needlessly complex for the Oath Rod though
- 18/01/2010 08:21:35 PM
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What you suggested is pretty much what I've always thought ...
- 18/01/2010 08:39:30 PM
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yup
- 18/01/2010 09:02:04 PM
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I'm with you, though ...
- 18/01/2010 09:27:59 PM
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The closest evidence we have is a Stilled/Burned out woman
- 18/01/2010 09:49:41 PM
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But if being unbound reverts you to your normal lifespan, then being bound isn't really a punishment *NM*
- 18/01/2010 09:52:29 PM
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Re: I'm not sure
- 18/01/2010 07:22:34 PM
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interesting
- 18/01/2010 07:46:12 PM
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Re: interesting
- 18/01/2010 08:18:11 PM
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The Dark Ones Mark possibly could black the oath rod? *NM*
- 20/01/2010 01:28:08 AM
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No, that can't be it, because when AS become Black Ajah ...
- 20/01/2010 02:53:21 PM
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But Alviarin's mark is different. Perhaps the mark of a FS is too *NM*
- 20/01/2010 04:21:16 PM
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Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting. *NM*
- 20/01/2010 07:19:02 PM
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Re: Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting.
- 22/01/2010 01:52:51 AM
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actually it's different
- 22/01/2010 07:32:18 AM
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actually I think it's the same...
- 23/01/2010 01:49:19 AM
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Nup. Unlike the FS, her mark will not allow her to order Darkspawn (plus more). *NM*
- 23/01/2010 11:50:36 AM
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Which has nothing to do with my post regarding the Oath rod... *NM*
- 24/01/2010 10:44:59 PM
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One point...
- 18/01/2010 06:12:26 PM
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Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod
- 18/01/2010 09:43:34 PM
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I'm thinking the point of the thread is to discuss how to beat the Oath Rod, not Mesaana's disguise
- 18/01/2010 09:59:18 PM
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Right, and also ...
- 18/01/2010 10:17:11 PM
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Except that the best way to 'defeat' the Oath rod is - not to take the Oaths at all
- 19/01/2010 03:18:43 AM
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Another interesting possibility
- 19/01/2010 05:08:42 PM
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I'd say it was highly unlikely that the Binder/Oath Rod works that way. *NM*
- 19/01/2010 06:06:49 PM
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We've seen pretty weird stuff happens before
- 19/01/2010 06:30:12 PM
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Oh, I agree ...
- 19/01/2010 06:47:52 PM
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Re: Oh, I agree ... found a few tidbits ... EDIT
- 19/01/2010 06:55:22 PM
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Heh, I had just dug up that quote myself, before I saw your edit ...
- 19/01/2010 07:17:19 PM
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I agree, it seems as if Moghedien just effectively transmigrated Birgitte
- 19/01/2010 10:00:45 PM
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she could just be posing as a non-channeler.
- 19/01/2010 05:52:01 PM
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If RJ/Brandon lied about that... then maybe Demandred is Taim after all. 
*NM*
- 20/01/2010 03:20:42 AM
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*NM*
- 20/01/2010 03:20:42 AM
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To speak no word that is not true
- 19/01/2010 10:06:30 PM
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Could there be a true word, though?
- 20/01/2010 03:47:46 PM
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I had a similar discussion with someone else, long ago ...
- 20/01/2010 04:05:03 PM
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I had a similar discussion with someone else, long ago ...
- 20/01/2010 04:05:03 PM
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Or would just be able to say "true, true. True true true, true true." etc. *NM*
- 21/01/2010 06:17:20 PM
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In going through some old RJ quotes I found this gem...
- 19/01/2010 10:22:03 PM
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Nice find! Not sure if that is a "way to defeat the Oath Rod" exactly, but it's certainly feasible.
- 20/01/2010 03:19:51 AM
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Wow, that's great. I wonder what else can be created there, like sa'angeals, etc.
- 20/01/2010 03:54:01 AM
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Good find, I had forgotten about that quote ...
- 20/01/2010 02:42:55 PM
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Yes
- 20/01/2010 03:03:53 PM
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*NM*
Oh I agree! I just thought it was funny that RJ made such a quote
- 20/01/2010 04:20:09 PM
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In the AoL...
- 20/01/2010 04:49:24 PM
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I was thinking this too
- 20/01/2010 07:18:19 PM
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I like it, mainly because it points to Mesaana being bested by Egwene in T'A'R
- 21/01/2010 04:26:34 PM
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maybe she warded herself before goin in or just set her frame of mind to beat it *NM*
- 21/01/2010 02:07:17 AM
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