How about it simply cuts your REMAINING life expectancy in half. Besides this would not be an issue with Mesanna because she is immortal due to tha DO's influance, she is not aging.
And, I doubt AoLers would have created a ter'angreal that could only be used on AS who were younger than a certain age, or hadn't reached the mid-point of their lifespans, etc. They would have created something that could be used on a channeler of any age, IMO.
Semirhage's choice of punishment was severing or 'being bound against her pleasures and seeing the end of her life approach'. It seems that the Oath Rod creates a finite limit on a channeler's life. Considering almost no Aes Sedai live past 300, it fits in well with a calculable lifespan after being bound.
IMO the rod cuts your life in half, and while most strong women live to about 700 years, a bound woman lives for half that. If Mesaana is 300 years old, it might have aged her instantly.
It would have taken some time off the end of her life perhaps, however I doubt it would have killed her outright, otherwise it would be a death sentance, and the Age of Legends was about peace and harmony
And, I doubt AoLers would have created a ter'angreal that could only be used on AS who were younger than a certain age, or hadn't reached the mid-point of their lifespans, etc. They would have created something that could be used on a channeler of any age, IMO.
Semirhage's choice of punishment was severing or 'being bound against her pleasures and seeing the end of her life approach'. It seems that the Oath Rod creates a finite limit on a channeler's life. Considering almost no Aes Sedai live past 300, it fits in well with a calculable lifespan after being bound.
IMO the rod cuts your life in half, and while most strong women live to about 700 years, a bound woman lives for half that. If Mesaana is 300 years old, it might have aged her instantly.
Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod
18/01/2010 04:50:29 PM
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I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye
18/01/2010 05:12:12 PM
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Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye
18/01/2010 05:43:26 PM
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I like that idea ...
18/01/2010 06:07:09 PM
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Re: I'm think Mesaana's hand is quicker than the eye
18/01/2010 05:58:44 PM
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I don't think Messana would have fallen over dead
18/01/2010 06:06:35 PM
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I agree ...
18/01/2010 06:15:25 PM
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I'm not sure
18/01/2010 06:54:51 PM
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It didn't when Romanda retook her Oaths in TGS
18/01/2010 07:13:20 PM
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Hmmm ...
18/01/2010 07:24:51 PM
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No she unswore them and retook them
18/01/2010 07:33:30 PM
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Yeah, I realized that after I posted, so I editted my post (again) ...
18/01/2010 07:36:39 PM
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I'm not sure I follow
18/01/2010 07:41:19 PM
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The point I was trying to make was ...
18/01/2010 08:05:16 PM
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Now I get it ... seems needlessly complex for the Oath Rod though
18/01/2010 08:21:35 PM
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What you suggested is pretty much what I've always thought ...
18/01/2010 08:39:30 PM
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yup
18/01/2010 09:02:04 PM
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I'm with you, though ...
18/01/2010 09:27:59 PM
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The closest evidence we have is a Stilled/Burned out woman
18/01/2010 09:49:41 PM
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But if being unbound reverts you to your normal lifespan, then being bound isn't really a punishment *NM*
18/01/2010 09:52:29 PM
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Re: I'm not sure
18/01/2010 07:22:34 PM
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interesting
18/01/2010 07:46:12 PM
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Re: interesting
18/01/2010 08:18:11 PM
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Re: I'm not sure
20/01/2010 12:59:27 PM
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The Dark Ones Mark possibly could black the oath rod? *NM*
20/01/2010 01:28:08 AM
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No, that can't be it, because when AS become Black Ajah ...
20/01/2010 02:53:21 PM
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But Alviarin's mark is different. Perhaps the mark of a FS is too *NM*
20/01/2010 04:21:16 PM
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Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting. *NM*
20/01/2010 07:19:02 PM
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Re: Good point. I sort of misinterpreted what Kieran was suggesting.
22/01/2010 01:52:51 AM
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actually it's different
22/01/2010 07:32:18 AM
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actually I think it's the same...
23/01/2010 01:49:19 AM
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Nup. Unlike the FS, her mark will not allow her to order Darkspawn (plus more). *NM*
23/01/2010 11:50:36 AM
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Which has nothing to do with my post regarding the Oath rod... *NM*
24/01/2010 10:44:59 PM
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One point...
18/01/2010 06:12:26 PM
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Re: Mesaana and defeating the Oath Rod
18/01/2010 09:43:34 PM
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I'm thinking the point of the thread is to discuss how to beat the Oath Rod, not Mesaana's disguise
18/01/2010 09:59:18 PM
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Right, and also ...
18/01/2010 10:17:11 PM
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Except that the best way to 'defeat' the Oath rod is - not to take the Oaths at all
19/01/2010 03:18:43 AM
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Another interesting possibility
19/01/2010 05:08:42 PM
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I'd say it was highly unlikely that the Binder/Oath Rod works that way. *NM*
19/01/2010 06:06:49 PM
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We've seen pretty weird stuff happens before
19/01/2010 06:30:12 PM
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Oh, I agree ...
19/01/2010 06:47:52 PM
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Re: Oh, I agree ... found a few tidbits ... EDIT
19/01/2010 06:55:22 PM
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Heh, I had just dug up that quote myself, before I saw your edit ...
19/01/2010 07:17:19 PM
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I agree, it seems as if Moghedien just effectively transmigrated Birgitte
19/01/2010 10:00:45 PM
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she could just be posing as a non-channeler.
19/01/2010 05:52:01 PM
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If RJ/Brandon lied about that... then maybe Demandred is Taim after all. *NM*
20/01/2010 03:20:42 AM
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To speak no word that is not true
19/01/2010 10:06:30 PM
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Could there be a true word, though?
20/01/2010 03:47:46 PM
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I had a similar discussion with someone else, long ago ...
20/01/2010 04:05:03 PM
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Or would just be able to say "true, true. True true true, true true." etc. *NM*
21/01/2010 06:17:20 PM
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In going through some old RJ quotes I found this gem...
19/01/2010 10:22:03 PM
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Nice find! Not sure if that is a "way to defeat the Oath Rod" exactly, but it's certainly feasible.
20/01/2010 03:19:51 AM
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Wow, that's great. I wonder what else can be created there, like sa'angeals, etc.
20/01/2010 03:54:01 AM
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Good find, I had forgotten about that quote ...
20/01/2010 02:42:55 PM
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Yes
20/01/2010 03:03:53 PM
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Oh I agree! I just thought it was funny that RJ made such a quote
20/01/2010 04:20:09 PM
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In the AoL...
20/01/2010 04:49:24 PM
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I was thinking this too
20/01/2010 07:18:19 PM
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I like it, mainly because it points to Mesaana being bested by Egwene in T'A'R
21/01/2010 04:26:34 PM
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maybe she warded herself before goin in or just set her frame of mind to beat it *NM*
21/01/2010 02:07:17 AM
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