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Now I get it ... seems needlessly complex for the Oath Rod though darius_sedai Send a noteboard - 18/01/2010 08:21:35 PM
Romanda unswearing and reswearing the oaths and not dying doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know. And that is, that she hasn't reached her oath-bound lifespan allotment (whatever it is).

That tells us nothing about what might happen to Mesaana if she were to swear the Oaths. For one thing, don't know exactly how old Mesaana is - she could easily be 50 years older than Romanda, for example.

What Sidious is suggesting is that the Oath Rod does not allow channelers to live past a certain age, regardless of how old they are when the swear. If he's right, and Mesaana is already older than that "certain age", then she would die if she swore the oaths.

Romanda's unswearing and reswearing doesn't disprove Sidious' theory, since we already knew that she had not reached that "certain age" yet.

Do you see what I mean?


Kind of like simple answers for something like this ... I tend to think each Oath cuts Lifespan by x%, thus the more you take the shorter your lifespan.

If you assume you cut 25% off for each Oath you have a woman who would have lived 700 years would live about 525 years with 1 Oath, but only 394 with 2 Oaths and about 295 with 3 Oaths and perhaps only 220 with a 4th and so on...

Now if the same woman takes the Oaths at 300 I tend to think it would cut her remaining lifespan thus she would live for 168 additional years (400 years left to live -25% for each oath). But who knows!
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